Marcus, that sounds an interesting project, I’ll take a look at that Hey Mark, thanks for the kind words. It’d be my pleasure to have you with us. Let me know if you want any help getting set up.
On 4 September 2014 16:52, Mark Jackson <[email protected]> wrote: > one of the problems with namespaces is what happens when you're running > them in conjunction to referencing, it all becomes a hell of a lot more > complex. I keep meaning to add a load of namespace and reference utils in > Red9 just haven't had the time. > > Marcus, that sounds an interesting project, I'll take a look at that > > cheers > > Mark > > > On 4 September 2014 12:55, Stefan Andersson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks guys for the encouraging words about your pain... and that we all >> share the same pain.... we should have secret meetings under bridges. :) >> >> Namespaces and all of that is horrible, but also useful. It does prevent >> users from having non-unique names, and when used properly it's actually a >> nice thing. But, our world doesn't exist under the perfect project. I've >> managed to do the quick hack for now, we are in the middle of switching to >> a new pipeline and the tech department is busy, hence that I have to do >> quick hacks myself. >> >> best regards >> stefan andersson >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:21 AM, David Martinez < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I agree with Marcus here, >>> >>> I think that the more people we can get involved the better. It is >>> important that we see the kind of problems that we are facing in production >>> in order to try and find something that will be useful for all of us. :-) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David Martinez - Technical Animator >>> >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Website: http://www.elusiveideas.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Marcus Ottosson <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> any thoughts on shader publishing? >>>> >>>> Actually, yes. Me and a few Pipeline TDs here and on GitHub have been >>>> working on exactly this for the past month; i.e. ensuring quality before >>>> sharing work, including shaders. >>>> >>>> You are welcome to join; odds are we’d be able to create something >>>> better together than on our own. Have a look here: >>>> >>>> https://github.com/abstractfactory/pyblish >>>> >>>> GitHub is performing maintenance on their Wiki backend at the moment so >>>> links from the sidebar isn’t working as they should. Once they are >>>> finished, you can find more info here: >>>> >>>> https://github.com/abstractfactory/pyblish/wiki >>>> >>>> In a nutshell, the workflow is: >>>> >>>> 1. Artist created content >>>> 2. Artist publishes content using Pyblish >>>> 3. Pyblish passes content through validations, which is a >>>> plugin-system of classes that either accepts or declines the content, >>>> written by either you or someone else. >>>> 4. If validation passes, content is exported >>>> 5. If not, artist is given a friendly message on what to do about >>>> it. >>>> >>>> The end result is, nothing leaves Maya unless it follows your naming >>>> and namespace conventions, or whatever else you are looking to validate. >>>> >>>> Feel free to add me on Hangouts and I’ll get you up and running with >>>> it, some of us are already using with it in production. >>>> >>>> - [email protected] >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 September 2014 10:57, Stefan Andersson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey Marcus! >>>>> Thanks for the code, all code helps so I appreciate you sharing that. >>>>> I'm trying to trap what other artists are doing... sometimes they have >>>>> stolen shaders from other scenes or just duplicated networks, there are >>>>> 1000's of ways they are doing it. But I would like to do a bit of cleanup >>>>> before they submit the shader asset, and I also want to do it in a way >>>>> that >>>>> doesn't obstruct their workflow. >>>>> >>>>> I could go fascist and block "illegal workflows", but I suspect they >>>>> would be blocked and the quality of the images would eventually go down :) >>>>> >>>>> I'm actually looking into parsing the exported ma file instead, I had >>>>> a thought that it might be a bad thing to temper with the work file that >>>>> the artist is working on. >>>>> >>>>> any thoughts on shader publishing? >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> stefan andersson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Marcus Ottosson < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As a shot in the dark, if the origin of your namespaces is from >>>>>> importing a scene, you have the option of merging names as opposed to >>>>>> storing it all within a namespace. Namespaces are originally for dealing >>>>>> with name clashes. >>>>>> >>>>>> From the docs: >>>>>> >>>>>> Namespaces are primarily used to resolve name-clash issues in Maya, >>>>>> where a new object has the same name as an existing object (from >>>>>> importing >>>>>> a file, for example). - Docs >>>>>> <http://help.autodesk.com/cloudhelp/2015/ENU/Maya-Tech-Docs/CommandsPython/namespace.html> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4 September 2014 09:07, Marcus Ottosson <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Marcus! >>>>>>> Well, that only renames the node. So child nodes will still have the >>>>>>> namespace intact. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes it does. A namespace in Maya is actually nothing more than some >>>>>>> additional character in its name. The cmds.namespace() is really >>>>>>> just a fancy cmds.rename if all you’re using it for is renaming >>>>>>> nodes. One of its benefits lie in the creation or removal of namespace >>>>>>> objects, those you can see under Window -> General Editors -> >>>>>>> Namespace Editor. But even those are mere conveniences for >>>>>>> ultimately renaming nodes, as the “root” namespace really just means “no >>>>>>> colons (:) in the name” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With this in mind, the following snippet would look at your >>>>>>> selection, and remove namespaces from all children below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> def remove_namespaces(node): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> try: >>>>>>> # Note rsplit instead of split >>>>>>> >>>>>>> namespace, name = node.rsplit(":", 1) >>>>>>> except: >>>>>>> namespace, name = None, node >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if namespace: >>>>>>> try: >>>>>>> cmds.rename(node, name) >>>>>>> except RuntimeError: >>>>>>> # Can't remove namespaces from read-only nodes >>>>>>> # E.g. namespaces embedded in references >>>>>>> pass >>>>>>> def remove_namespaces_from_selection(): >>>>>>> for node in cmds.ls(sl=1): >>>>>>> # Remove namespaces of all children first >>>>>>> for descendent in cmds.listRelatives(node, allDescendents=True): >>>>>>> remove_namespaces(descendent) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # Finally, remove namespace from current selection >>>>>>> remove_namespaces(node) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> remove_namespaces_from_selection() >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It wouldn’t look at shaders though, for that I’d recommend also >>>>>>> listing connection to each node capable of having a shader. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does that help at all? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3 September 2014 20:49, Stefan Andersson <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Marcus! >>>>>>>> Well, that only renames the node. So child nodes will still have >>>>>>>> the namespace intact. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So right now I have this which moves the namespace eventually into >>>>>>>> the root >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> oSel = cmds.ls(sl=True)[0].split(":") >>>>>>>> if len(oSel) >1: >>>>>>>> for i in range(len(oSel)-1): >>>>>>>> cmds.namespace(mv=(oSel[i], ":"), f=True) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Still trying to find a clever way of removing a selected >>>>>>>> object/shader (and their child nodes) into the root. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>> stefan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Marcus Ottosson < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Stefan, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The namespace is in the name, so renaming a node to a name without >>>>>>>>> namespace will effectively remove its namespace. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> cmds.rename('namespace:my_node', 'my_node') >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So if you’ve got many shaders you’d like to remove namespaces >>>>>>>>> from, simply rename them all. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> for shader in cmds.ls(type='shadingDependNode'): >>>>>>>>> try: >>>>>>>>> # Note rsplit instead of split >>>>>>>>> namespace, name = shader.rsplit(":", 1) >>>>>>>>> except: >>>>>>>>> namespace, name = None, shader >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if namespace: >>>>>>>>> try: >>>>>>>>> cmds.rename(shader, name) >>>>>>>>> except RuntimeError: >>>>>>>>> # Can't rename some shaders, like lambert1 >>>>>>>>> pass >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3 September 2014 17:53, Stefan Andersson <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm having a brain lock down... I'm trying to removed namespaces >>>>>>>>>> (both nested and not nested) from shaders. 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