Hey Rudi

On Mon, 26 Sep 2016, 4:45 AM Rudi Hammad <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Alok.
>
> See, some people think that, because they have a lot experience and
> talent(like marcus, and obviously he is very talented), they have they
> right to insult, using sarcastic comments, the people who are learning and
> asking questions.
> ( or maybe it is just with me, who knows). I am very stupid. So I have to
> ask and doubt the rules, no matter how many people follow them. In this
> forum, there are gods, that will just trash my opinion because I am nobody.
>

I had to scan back through the comments to find what you were referring to.
I do completely value your feelings and how responses have affected you.
Though I feel there may have been some miscommunication here. I do see some
analogies being made to choosing a style that may or may not be what you
like but may cover the preference of a large enough sample of people to be
acceptable. It is possible that the use of the analogy may not have
translated well and caused feelings of insult. I'm hoping that no one had
any malicious intent here, such as a cause to want to belittle you.

We definitely have no gods here in this forum. That is maybe a term those
might use to embellish the difference in years of experience between
different members. But we should strive to take part in discussions as
equal colleagues in the related industries. As an example, while some may
see me as a member that offers a lot of assistance on general programming,
I know almost nothing about rigging aside from basic terminologies. You are
far more experienced in this area than I am and I would likely need to call
on you or others with more experience than me, should I ever need to solve
a rigging problem.

Fortunately we have a pool of talent on this forum.

Thank you for taking the time to explain in a reasonable way all that, and
> not trashing my point of view with sarcasm.
>
> I don´t think I will write in this forum anymore. I am sick of arrogance
> in programmers.
> But I want to thank all of you, who helped me when I have
> doubts(Justin,Cesar, Alok, and many more I am forgetting). Thanks guys
>

I surely hope this isn't the end of your participation on this forum. Your
questions also help to serve those that may not feel comfortable posting.
Or to help future visitors that search the history.


> cheers.
>
>
>
>
>
> El domingo, 25 de septiembre de 2016, 15:55:23 (UTC+1), Alok Gandhi
> escribió:
>>
>> And I don´t think it is uglier
>>
>>
>> Both are readable for sure, I agree, 120 is not bad at all. It is good to
>> see that you put some thought not only what your code does but also how
>> does it look.
>>
>> Just another piece of advise - For the perspective of version control
>> system in particular, there is a huge implication in using
>>  class MyClass(object):
>>
>>
>>     def someMethod(
>>         some_big_argument_name,
>>         another_big_argument,
>>         and_yet_another_huge_argument_name,  # Note the ',' (not technically 
>> needed)
>>         ):
>>
>>
>> Instead of
>>
>> class MyClass(object):
>>
>> def someMethod(some_big_argument_name, another_big_argument,
>> and_yet_another_huge_argument_name):
>>
>> am not sure how much version control you use but when you add that extra
>> trailing ',' in the last argument, you are future proofing for adding extra
>> argument in propective which will be detected by the version control more
>> clearly:
>>
>> Here version control system will report that one line was changed and
>> another added
>> - and_yet_another_huge_argument_name
>> + and_yet_another_huge_argument_name,
>> + some_new argument,
>> )
>>
>> as compared to more clear (here the version control system will that only
>> one line was added),
>>
>> and_yet_another_huge_argument_name,
>>
>> + some_new argument
>> )
>>
>> The same goes for lists, sets and dictionaries as python allows for a
>> trailing comma at the end of last argument/element. This is the most
>> important reason for it.
>>
>> But in the end, the whole idea is to be readable, and as beautiful as
>> possible. I am not advocating excessive use of PEP-8 (I am surely not PEP-8
>> police, actually far from it), my emphasis is more on using PEP-8 to your
>> advantage. Each coder has a personal and distinctive style, so much that
>> sometimes I can look at the code and know the person who wrote it before
>> even running `git blame` on a file. As coders, the onus of writing good
>> readable code lies on the author, for the benefit of those who will it read
>> it later (sometimes even the author himself) and we should write every
>> piece of code being constantly aware of that fact.
>>
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