Thanks for the update Chad. Yury
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 9:21 AM Chad Dombrova <chad...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > PyMEL 1.3.0 has been released with support for 2023, and 1.4.0b1 has been > released with support for 2024. To install the beta for 2024 pip install > with --pre flag. > > PyMEL is definitely still actively developed, as you can see from the > features discussed in this blog post: > https://dev.to/chadrik/pymels-new-type-stubs-2die > > As for why PyMEL is no longer bundled with Maya, I'll do my best to > summarize the discussions with Autodesk on this topic. Firstly, there > seemed to be the impression that the new python API 2.0 solved the problems > with python scripting in Maya, which is an assessment that I don't agree > with. Nothing has appreciably changed with the ability to use maya.cmds > with the C++ API wrapper(s) in the 15 years since python was first added to > Maya. One pain point from Autodesk's perspective was that releasing Maya > required a certain amount of cooperation between Autodesk and the PyMEL > developers, which added extra steps for them and slowed them down, which is > a point I totally understand. Their assessment was that the pros of > installing via PyPI -- decoupled release schedules, esp the ability to > release patch fixes to PyMEL -- outweighed the cons -- extra steps for > users and headaches with installing behind a firewall. And lastly, I think > there was the feeling that there's a world of open source projects out > there for Maya, so "why should PyMEL get special status?" > > What we're seeing with the delayed release of pymel for 2023 is one of the > downsides of the new arrangement: the lack of a hard deadline to get PyMEL > released in time to be bundled with Maya means it doesn't always make it to > the top of the issue stack at Luma (I managed to get all of the release > work done for 2023 and 2024 on my vacation and while sick). > > If there are others out there who would like to cooperate on PyMEL, we're > happy to do so. The release process is very well documented, and I make an > effort to improve it every time I do the process. > > I hope that clears things up. Let me know if you folks have any questions > and I'll do my best to answer them. > > -chad > > > On Sun, Apr 2, 2023 at 5:12 AM Marcus Ottosson <konstrukt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hm, true. Could be as simple as that. >> >> - https://github.com/LumaPictures/pymel >> >> [image: image.png] >> >> Still, surprised there was no conversation; I'd imagine someone may want >> to take over, especially since a lot of pipeline out there depend on it. >> >> On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 at 11:59, Justin Israel <justinisr...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The last tag was in Nov 2021 >>> Could it be that it's not actively maintained anymore so Autodesk >>> stopped bundling it? >>> >>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2023, 9:38 pm Marcus Ottosson, <konstrukt...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've also tried getting to the bottom of why PyMEL stopped being >>>> included to begin with in 2023, assuming I missed a conversation somewhere. >>>> But it appears to have happened out of the blue over at Autodesk >>>> headquarters? :O Maybe @Chad Dombrova <chad...@gmail.com> knows more? >>>> >>>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 at 00:28, Justin Israel <justinisr...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2023, 11:23 am Abdelhalim abulmagd, < >>>>> abdelhalim.abulm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Why pymel not available? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Seems like they might have stopped shipping with PyMel as of 2023 and >>>>> you need to manually install it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://help.autodesk.com/view/MAYAUL/2022/ENU/?guid=GUID-2AA5EFCE-53B1-46A0-8E43-4CD0B2C72FB4 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://help.autodesk.com/view/MAYAUL/2023/ENU/?guid=GUID-2AA5EFCE-53B1-46A0-8E43-4CD0B2C72FB4 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2023, 12:36 AM DGFA DAG's GRAPHIC & FOTO ART < >>>>>> gerome....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> in Maya 2024 is no more pymel available so I have to switch to what >>>>>>> ever... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But I struggle with Maya cmds. >>>>>>> How can I translate this to cmds? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> import pymel.core as pm >>>>>>> # import os >>>>>>> # import maya.mel as mel >>>>>>> # main call >>>>>>> >>>>>>> def dags_menu(): >>>>>>> # call menu objects >>>>>>> main_window = pm.language.melGlobals['gMainWindow'] >>>>>>> menu_obj = 'DagsMenu' >>>>>>> menu_label = 'Dags Tools' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if pm.menu(menu_obj, label=menu_label, parent=main_window, >>>>>>> exists=True): >>>>>>> pm.deleteUI(pm.menu(menu_obj, deleteAllItems=True, e=True)) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> dags_menu = pm.menu(menu_obj, label=menu_label, parent=main_window, >>>>>>> tearOff=True) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> project_menu(dags_menu) >>>>>>> polygon_menu(dags_menu) >>>>>>> object_menu(dags_menu) >>>>>>> script_menu(dags_menu) >>>>>>> material_menu(dags_menu) >>>>>>> rigging_menu(dags_menu) >>>>>>> camera_menu(dags_menu) >>>>>>> light_menu(dags_menu) >>>>>>> render_menu(dags_menu) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # menu Items >>>>>>> def project_menu(dags_menu): >>>>>>> # Main Submenu Project >>>>>>> # pm.setParent('..', menu=True) >>>>>>> # dags_menu = pm.menu(menu_obj, label=menu_label, >>>>>>> parent=main_window, tearOff=True) >>>>>>> pm.menuItem(label='Project', subMenu=True, parent=dags_menu, >>>>>>> tearOff=True) >>>>>>> # set project >>>>>>> pm.menuItem( >>>>>>> label='Set Project', >>>>>>> command='SetProject', >>>>>>> image='fileOpen.png', >>>>>>> sourceType='mel', >>>>>>> optionBox=False, >>>>>>> visible=True, >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pm.menuItem(divider=True) >>>>>>> # save >>>>>>> pm.menuItem( >>>>>>> label='Save', >>>>>>> command='SaveScene', >>>>>>> image='save.png', >>>>>>> sourceType='mel', >>>>>>> optionBox=False, >>>>>>> visible=True, >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> # save as >>>>>>> pm.menuItem( >>>>>>> label='Save Scene As...', >>>>>>> command='SaveSceneAs', >>>>>>> image='save.png', >>>>>>> sourceType='mel', >>>>>>> optionBox=False, >>>>>>> visible=True, >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> # save incremental >>>>>>> pm.menuItem( >>>>>>> label='Increment Save', >>>>>>> command='IncrementAndSave', >>>>>>> image='saveToShelf.png', >>>>>>> sourceType='mel', >>>>>>> optionBox=False, >>>>>>> visible=True, >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! 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