I'm part of a few Discord servers, but prefer this mailing list for two reasons.
1. Providing help in a bigger community is like trying to boil the ocean. There's just too much, and the lack of impact is discouraging. 2. Searchability. I spend time crafting replies here, because I know it'll be seen not just by the immediate reader, but by future readers as well via Google et. al. (and probably ChatGPT) Then there's the repetition and low-effort communication you get from chats. Quantity over quaility. On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 at 21:37, Justin Israel <justinisr...@gmail.com> wrote: > You don't have to be an experienced developer to be an admin. My role is > really just to approve people, remove spam, and keep conversations relevant > to the group. The community is expected to help share their experience as a > whole. > > I appreciate you offering admin access. I'm going to be upfront now that I > don't have the desire to manage it. But maybe 1 or more other people will > put their hands up? > Marcus has yet to weigh in, being the other active admin here. He might > have a stronger appetite for this than I do. > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024, 10:18 AM Abdelhalim abulmagd < > abdelhalim.abulm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I hope you'll consider joining, and I’ll give you admin access very >> easily, as I mentioned before. I just wanted to get the idea started >> >> On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 at 11:13:41 PM UTC+2 Abdelhalim abulmagd >> wrote: >> >>> To be honest, I wasn’t planning on managing the server myself long-term >>> because I’m still quite new to programming in general. My initial thought >>> was to set it up, get things started, and then hand it over to the admins >>> of this Google Group, as they’re already familiar with managing the >>> community. My main goal was simply to initiate the idea and see if it could >>> spark interest. >>> >>> I also understand that development Not just limited on Maya. However, >>> this is an easy problem to solve on Discord. New channels can always be >>> added later for any topic the community feels is relevant, whether it’s >>> Maya, game development, Python, or anything else. Discord’s flexibility >>> allows the server to grow and adapt as needed. >>> >>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 at 10:41:57 PM UTC+2 Justin Israel wrote: >>> >>>> Right, we are agreeing on some aspects here. My argument is that I >>>> don't think there is enough activity in this community to make a new >>>> Discord server out of it. But that being said, you are totally free to >>>> start it and propose that the community move away from this mailing list to >>>> a more dynamic Discord server. You could then take on the role of being the >>>> admin. If you aren't going to be the admin, who will? >>>> >>>> Do you feel that the people that frequent this community engage with >>>> Maya mostly in a non-professional context? I figured it was a lot of visual >>>> effects, animation, game dev, etc, in a professional context. But I could >>>> be wrong. Either way, I think if there were an existing Discord community >>>> that already has some critical mass, it would be better to direct people >>>> there, as opposed to trying to start a new one specific to Maya >>>> Development, and trying to grow it. But that is totally up to you. >>>> >>>> I will add that, speaking for myself, even though I am an admin of this >>>> community, I haven't developed for Maya in probably 12 years now. I just do >>>> my part to admin the community as long as it seems to remain active. So my >>>> interest in also admining a Discord server is quite low to zero 😁 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 9:20 AM Abdelhalim abulmagd < >>>> abdelhali...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I actually agree with much of what you said. My main point, though, is >>>>> about familiarity and accessibility. >>>>> >>>>> Most people already know and use Discord, so it’s easy to invite them >>>>> to join. On the other hand, if you mention Slack to someone, chances are >>>>> they won’t know what it is unless they’ve worked in a company where Slack >>>>> is commonly used. It’s primarily a tool for corporate environments, which >>>>> limits its reach outside those circles. >>>>> >>>>> Discord, however, is something people of all backgrounds use daily for >>>>> gaming, communities, hobbies, and more. It’s already well-established as a >>>>> go-to platform for group interactions, which makes it a lot easier to >>>>> onboard new members without having to explain what it is or how it works. >>>>> >>>>> Again, I’m not suggesting Discord is better than Slack for everyone—I >>>>> just believe that for a broader community, Discord’s familiarity makes it >>>>> a >>>>> stronger option. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 at 8:06:13 PM UTC+2 Justin Israel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024, 5:52 AM Abdelhalim abulmagd < >>>>>> abdelhali...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for letting me know about the tech-art.org Slack group! >>>>>>> Honestly, I’m not very familiar with Slack, but I’d love to explore it >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> it offers something unique. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That said, I believe Discord has some features that make it really >>>>>>> appealing for building active communities: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Discord is much more popular and widely recognized than >>>>>>> Slack, so people are generally more familiar with it. >>>>>>> - also it's available on mobile, PC, and even PlayStation, >>>>>>> making it easy to access anytime and from anywhere. >>>>>>> - Voice Channels: Perfect for live discussions, brainstorming, >>>>>>> or quick Q&A sessions >>>>>>> - It’s easy to create dedicated channels for specific topics, >>>>>>> making it simple to find or share information. >>>>>>> - and more >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> These are great features. I just don't think they make a strong case >>>>>> as a server for this particular group. Why do we need Playstation access? >>>>>> Why do we need voice channels when the engagement on this group is >>>>>> already >>>>>> really low. >>>>>> Slack has multiple channels as well, threaded discussions, searching, >>>>>> media sharing, voice integrations through zppm, etc. >>>>>> I'm not saying slack is better than discord. I'm just saying slack >>>>>> exists to support communities related to this one so there is already a >>>>>> solution with a community base. >>>>>> Starting a discord seems counter productive. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 9:35 PM H D <hannes...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> there is the tech-art.org slack group, which AFAIK is the biggest >>>>>>>> active community. >>>>>>>> people will only join your discord once it's a active community. >>>>>>>> which it will only become when people join and participate ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, 25 November 2024 at 11:38:13 UTC Abdelhalim abulmagd >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After some research, I noticed that most Discord servers are >>>>>>>>> associated with YouTubers who use them primarily to promote their >>>>>>>>> scripts >>>>>>>>> or products, and I couldn’t find a comprehensive, community-focused >>>>>>>>> group >>>>>>>>> like this one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, I thought, why not create a Discord server alongside this >>>>>>>>> Google Group? 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