Well, adding the paths didn't help, but I just went ahead and put import _tkinter in my libs.pth file and now my Tkinter programs work like everybody else's at least.
Thanks for the pointer on .pth files. Bandung wrote: > > Here is a link explaining what *.pth files do. they are just text files > with path statements. Python reads them when it first loads and > effectively adds any path statements that it sees, into the PYTHONPATH > environment. Really cool for permitting you to type in just the file's > name rather than the whole path sttement when you wantto import a script > somewhere on your system. > > You can use them to import modules as well I think. for the most part, I > simply put path statements in them. > > > http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/2005/02/06/using-pth-files-for-python-development/ > *.pth files > > If you want your gui to load faster. give your script a *.pyw extension. > But other than that, well, yes, its a bit slow to load. (hows that for an > understatement) > > > > > Progor wrote: >> >> Hmmm, the only thing I'm not sure about is your (d) created a file which >> I call "pathextender.pth" file where I added all of the directories where >> my scripts are. In addition to adding all of my script directories (they >> are on storage cards), I then added the path to my python25\lib directory >> where my Tkinter.py and Tkinter.pyc resides. >> >> What is this pathextender.pth file, what format is it in, and how does >> python know what to do with it? >> >> Either way, I guess it's not that big of a deal. Adding import _tkinter >> doesn't seem to have any adverse effects, and it makes at least one >> machine more stable :) >> >> I'm almost finished making my Tkinter-based "almost native looking" App >> class. It's complete with no visible border or title bar, a menu at the >> bottom that leaves room for the SIP button, and a main frame that >> automatically resizes itself when the SIP appears. I just have to do a >> little bit more work to make it recognize hi-res devices and landscape >> orientation, and resize it's main frame and menus as needed. I may be >> reinventing a wheel, but I didn't find anything on this list like that. >> I'll post my files when I'm done. >> >> By the way, it's taking several seconds (5ish) to load my App (i.e. from >> the time the python interpreter appears to the time the GUI is >> displayed)... is that Tkinter taking so long, or should I look at some of >> my other imports and/or code? >> >> >> Bandung wrote: >>> >>> I've been through all of those permutations and combinations myself. >>> What I settled on was this; >>> >>> a) left the original python.zip file intact. that is to say, didn'tt >>> remove anything, didn't replace anything >>> b) added the latest Tkinter.py that I could find for python25 and placed >>> it in my Python2.5\lib directory. >>> c) clicked on the Tkinter.py file in my Lib directory to get it to >>> create a Tkinter.pyc If yours is anything like mine, it will not be the >>> same size as the one within python25.zip. This is good. Why? I don't >>> know. >>> d) created a file which I call "pathextender.pth" file where I added all >>> of the directories where my scripts are. In addition to adding all of >>> my script directories (they are on storage cards), I then added the path >>> to my python25\lib directory where my Tkinter.py and Tkinter.pyc >>> resides. >>> e) soft reset. >>> >>> Occasionally, I get that dll not found message. Particularly if the >>> unit goes into it's "hybernation" mode. Soft reset always brings it >>> back. Well on rare occasions, I have had to do numerous soft resets. >>> (even removed the battery one time and then did the "1 stylus salute" >>> thingy) >>> >>> Assuming that your files are all in the correct place, soft reset should >>> work. My python is on the storage card. Don't know if that makes a >>> difference but someone else was struggling to get their install working >>> within main memory and it worked so... >>> >>> >>> >>> Progor wrote: >>>> >>>> I wish it were that easy. This process included 20-something soft >>>> resets, none of which were able to solve this problem. I am pretty new >>>> to python, so if you can help me understand why: >>>> >>>> import _tkinter >>>> import Tkinter >>>> >>>> works, but: >>>> >>>> import Tkinter >>>> >>>> alone doesn't work, then maybe we can find a solution to the whole >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> I assume import _tkinter is asking it to import the dll itself, and >>>> somehow the Tkinter package isn't making it that far. >>>> >>>> Ok. I made it a bit further. I found a Tkinter.py and Tkinter.pyc >>>> file in one of the threads on this topic a bit back and added them to >>>> my Lib directory. That did nothing, but then I renamed Tkinter.pyc in >>>> python25.zip/lib-tk to Tkinterold.pyc (Resco File Explorer ftw) so >>>> python would be sure to use the one in Lib, and finally, it works. >>>> Oddly enough, clicking on the .py version gives a could not find TCL >>>> DLL message (on the import _tkinter line), but clicking on the .pyc >>>> gives the little demo window. Even weirder, moving that .pyc file into >>>> the zip under lib-tk takes me back to the original problem (not finding >>>> TK DLL). Yes, I soft reset between every file move operation and test. >>>> >>>> Well, dangit, I must have gotten lucky on a soft reset here or there or >>>> still had the DLL loaded into memory from something else or... who >>>> knows... I'm still getting the "could not find TK DLL" message, with >>>> either version or location of Tkinter.pyc... most of the time. >>>> >>>> >>>> Bandung wrote: >>>>> >>>>> A soft reset is your friend. Do it and your python install/tkinter >>>>> will return to normal. I don't know why at times "stuff" happens but >>>>> it does. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Progor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I think I might have my install kinda borked. I finally got it >>>>>> working, but I had to jump through some hoops to make it work. >>>>>> >>>>>> First, I installed PythonCE with CABINSTL directly into /Python (I >>>>>> switch SD cards all the time, wanted it in main memory (for speed >>>>>> too), but with as few spaces as possible for command line stuff). >>>>>> >>>>>> Then, I tried just doing an import Tkinter from the console, but it >>>>>> gave me the notorious missing TK DLL message. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I found the dlls (celib, tk84, tcl84) and put them in /Windows, >>>>>> but it still gave me the error. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I played around with it a bit. I found out if I import _tkinter >>>>>> first, then it doesn't give me the message... but that's an extra >>>>>> line in all my programs and may be weird if I ever want to give out >>>>>> my programs. >>>>>> >>>>>> I kept looking around on this mailing list and finally figured out I >>>>>> needed to install tcl as well, did that, but I still have to import >>>>>> _tkinter before I can import Tkinter without getting the "Could not >>>>>> find TK DLL" error. >>>>>> >>>>>> It sounds like some people have gotten it to work on their systems >>>>>> without the weird "import _tkinter" extra line. Have I done >>>>>> something wrong? Or is Tkinter just that persnickity? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/weird-Tkinter-tf3297520.html#a9243936 Sent from the Python - pythonce mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ PythonCE mailing list PythonCE@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonce
