At the same time, the idea of doing separately tuned developments for the GUIs of different platforms is simply out of the question. I don't even *have* different platforms (I sneak onto a colleague's machine to see if my Windows builds work). Certainly this distinguishes what I write from commercial apps; but when you ask me to describe the result as "throwaway," I balk.
Charles Hartman
On Jan 23, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Pete wrote:
So my point is, you may very well be advocating an approach which will marginalize the Mac platform even further. I know that's not your intent, your intent is to see excellent Mac apps get created, but by eschewing and not helping approaches like the one wxWidgets takes, and in fact by making the toolkit sound useless for any practical purpose, you're actually reducing the options that people have, and in doing so making Mac support a less attractive option or possibly a simply unfeasible one. Does the Mac platform really win in the end if you do that?
And the shame of it all is that aside from the ambiguous, off-hand comments ("widgets designed by children", "a really good cross platform GUI toolkit is not possible") that do little except poke fun at projects such as wxPython, we get very little constructive feedback about exactly what needs fixing. But I guess if you blindly assume it's all "hopeless", then there's little point in that, is there?
Kevin
Personally I have a great application and I don't care about the 'market' - I don't owe them anything, especially the sheepish ones.
My app' is currently very simple and I am going to continue developing it on the greatest client platform available using the very best tools. I have now decided that portability in the context of evolving a piece of work is just a distraction. When a better (more productive and elegant) OS than OS X shows up I will jump ship.
I prefer diversity to homogeneity, any-day. Something like Pythoncard which is now cross-platform was inspired by HyperCard (Mac only) as was the common hypertext browser, I believe. I wish there were more developer-oriented operating systems out there. There is far too much code that needs writing and precious little time. A rich platform can stimulate rich new applications.
Pete
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