On Apr 18, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Lee Cullens wrote:
On Apr 18, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Dethe Elza wrote:
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Another low-tech solution would be to start a wiki page with known latest versions, urls to download the latest versions, and the above script. No reinvention of the wheel needed, just leveraging what we already have in a different way.
Isn't this what Bob is doing with http://pythonmac.org/packages/
More or less, minus the script, and any metadata beyond the canonical URL, name, and version.
Being new to this "playground" my concern is the next round of versions since they will likely be applicable by the time I get really productive. Say if Apple goes to 2.4 then what about Bob's build, and subsequently Bob's(?) 2.5 (__future__) build?
Unless you explicitly screw things up by setting PYTHONPATH or running stuff with the wrong python interpreter, then what Apple does and what other people do are completely separate. The build bugs were fixed in Python 2.3.5 and Python 2.4.1. Of course, since 10.3 ships with 2.3.0, then it needs to be patched (PantherPythonFix).
That said, on Mac OS X 10.3+ builds of things, the extensions are actually portable amongst Python interpreters of the same version since they don't directly link to a Python library... so it would be possible to share the same set of extensions between two Python 2.3.x (though I'm not sure why you would want to have two Python 2.3.x installed in the first place).
I for one would like a more transparent and manageable versioning. I don't want to move things around (I'll play by the rules), but I would like to be able to add new versions and remove old versions of Python and components combined. As I understand it, such is what Bob did with 2.4, but what he did is not overly obvious to me (I understand Bob is working within the conventions and constraints of the Mac OS X implementation) and the additional learning curve distracts from the finished app package (at my age without the time of youth one gets more focused :~).
I didn't do anything special, I built Python 2.4.1, unmodified. The problems in the past were bugs in Python that have been squashed.
-bob
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