Title: [Pythonmac-SIG] [q] Help with choosing "right" python port
The problem: From within IDLE, I type:

from turtle import *
reset()
I then get a small window, titled tk, and a new 'console' window. When I move the cursor to either of these I get a spinning rainbow disk, and am unable to enlarge the tk window. This does not happen when I use Terminal.

I want to use IDLE (for ease of use) and turtle graphics (for motivation) to teach programming to my 6th, 7th, and 8th graders. Am I doing something wrong? Is this a problem with IDLE? Is there a fix or a work-around? (I'm very new to Python myself and have warned my students that I'll be learning it from them, as they learn from me.)

Also, what is the 'Console' window for? I've tried typing in it only to get error messages.

This started while I was using Jack Jensen's IDLE, and Tiger's built-in Python (2.3.5?); I've spent most of the day searching for a solution and came upon your name in Pythonmac-SIG. So I got to your site, downloaded and ran 2.4.1 and the TigerPython24Fix, only to find that the exact same thing still happens - import turtle stuff, invoke any turtle word, and find a small window that 'works' (the turtle moves around, on command) but that cannot be enlarged (still the swirling rainbow disk).

Thanks for your time - any help would be greatly appreciated.

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