-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Christopher Barker wrote: > Louis Pecora wrote: >> This seems to be where this argument goes: the user/newbies vs. the >> developers. > > I don't think so. This entire conversation is about supporting the > newbies. The disagreements are about how best to do that. > >> You shouldn't be forcing everyone to adopt a python system >> that then suits your marketing model. > > I know why I'm pushing for the "Install the 2.4 version" approach, and > it's precisely to support newbies, not to fit a marketing model. > > If we make it clear that there is one "Standard" way to do python on the > Mac, then it's easier for everyone: > > - Newbies don't have to make a decision they don't understand the > implications of. > > - We don't have to field questions about more than one version. > > - When they need to add an extension package, there is only one set of > pre-built packages to look at. > > - Extension package builders and maintainers only need to target one > version, and as a result, more packages will work on the Mac. (you > should see what's in the matplotlib setup.py: a fragile mess inside the > "darwin" section, looking around for whether you're running fink, or > darwinports, etc. so that libs can be found. What a pain!) > > Those are some of the reasons that I think we need to establish a > single, standard, "Recommended by the MacPython community" version.
+1 for what Chris is advocating here. A good model for this is Tk Aqua: see http://tcltkaqua.sourceforge.net. For the past few years this has been the standard way to get the "latest and greatest" Tcl/Tk for the Mac. It's been superseded a bit by ActiveState's distribution, but because ActiveState has licensing restrictions, that's not for everyone. ActivePython is also an example to consider that's a little more relevant. Not to recommend ActivePython itself, as its licensing is more restrictive than the build that will result from this discussion, but it is a self-contained, easily-installed, well-documented, and up-to-date bundle of Python and packages. - -- Kevin Walzer iReveal: File Search Tool http://www.wordtech-software.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD7QBMJmdQs+6YVcoRAjwhAJ4hBw+Ne2VGWQ+/jsH1Wh8MYGka9QCcCwyA D5oEKIwaFMLXgy/juNZPGEA= =J/8l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
