On 10-apr-2006, at 20:22, Kent Quirk wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:pythonmac-sig- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dethe Elza > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:35 PM > To: Gábor Farkas > Cc: pythonmac-sig@python.org > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] needed: simple gui toolkit with > "japaneseinput" support > >>> so, is there something simpler? maybe a simple gui toolkit built >>> on cocoa? > >> There is a simple GUI toolkit built on Cocoa, it's called PyObjC. > > For particularly large values of "simple", I guess. For those who > don't already speak Cocoa, PyObjC is annoyingly cumbersome. Using > it requires that you understand Cocoa enough to know how to read > its documentation, understand its message model, understand the way > it handles object allocation, and be able to use Interface Builder.
Interface Builder is in my optinion one of the strong points of Cocoa: drag&drop live objects to build a user interface and then load that from your application code. That's a lot more convenient than building a GUI in code. Cocoa's messaging model is not that much different from Python's. The major differences are two-stage object creationg (aka NSObject.alloc ().init()) and segmented method names (doFoo:andBar:). The hard part of Cocoa is understanding how you should write code that works with the framework instead of against it. In that it isn't different from other large and powerfull frameworks like Twisted. > > I get the impression that for those who've used Cocoa and prefer > Python, it's a breath of fresh air...but for those who've not been > swimming in a vat of Cocoa, it's not quite so appetizing. And to second Dethe: I'm also a python programmer that likes Cocoa. Heck, I wrote[1] PyObjC because I wanted to use Cocoa from Python. Ronald [1] Technically it's 'rewrote', but not much of the code from the original PyObjC is left by now. _______________________________________________ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
