I have a cross-platform wx application that needs to run some
graphics routines in pygame. On Mac (but not windows) when I close
the pygame window the wx application quits. The only way I've found
to get around this is to run the pygame part of the application using
wx.Process_Open but this creates a new instance of python which I
also don't want (because of python startup/import times).
I've attached a minimal script to show the problem. On win32 you can
click the 'run' icon as many times as you like and get a pygame
window each time. On my mac it runs once then gives the bouncy ball
and dies with the message;
objc: FREED(id): message release sent to freed object=0x7381cb0
Trace/BPT trap
Full info is in the crashlog also provided.
I'm running framework python 2.4, with wxPython2.6 (and tried 2.8)
and pygame1.8.0pre on a G5 PPC OSX 10.4
Does anyone know how to launch pygame/wx safely together?
cheers
Jon
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import pygame, wx, time
class Window:
def __init__(self,
size = (600,600)):
winSettings = pygame.OPENGL | pygame.DOUBLEBUF
pygame.init()
self.win = pygame.display.set_mode(size,winSettings)
def swapBuffer(self):
pygame.display.flip()
def close(self):
pygame.display.quit()
pygame.quit()
class MainFrame(wx.Frame):
def __init__(self, parent, ID, title, files=[]):
wx.Frame.__init__(self, parent, ID, title)
wx.EVT_CLOSE(self, self.quit)
#toolbar and button(s)
self.toolbar = self.CreateToolBar( (wx.TB_HORIZONTAL
| wx.NO_BORDER
| wx.TB_FLAT))
buttonSize=(16,16)
self.toolbar.SetToolBitmapSize(buttonSize)
run_bmp = wx.ArtProvider.GetBitmap(wx.ART_EXECUTABLE_FILE, wx.ART_TOOLBAR, buttonSize)
self.toolbar.AddSimpleTool(101, run_bmp, "Run [F5]", "Run current script")
self.toolbar.Bind(wx.EVT_TOOL, self.runPygame, id=101)
self.toolbar.Realize()
def quit(self, event):
self.Destroy()
def runPygame(self, event):
win = Window([200,200])
win.swapBuffer()
time.sleep(1)
win.close()
class MyApp(wx.App):
def OnInit(self):
self.frame = MainFrame(None, -1, title="Test Pygame")
self.frame.Show(True)
self.SetTopWindow(self.frame)
return True
app = MyApp()
app.MainLoop()
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