On 4 Jun, 2013, at 16:55, Dinu Gherman <gher...@darwin.in-berlin.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> after a longer break I've been looking into PyObjC again, installed 
> a fresh framework-built Python followed by the pyobjc package as de-
> scribed here:
> 
>  http://pythonhosted.org/pyobjc/install.html
> 
> Then, running a few samples from this page:
> 
>  http://pythonhosted.org/pyobjc/examples/index.html
> 
> revealed that py2app was missing which I had to install seperately as 
> Ronald kindly pointed out. 
> 
> So ok, this could clearly be better indicated on the installation page 
> above, but what I really wonder is if pyobjc and py2app can be useful 
> as stand-alone packages or if they are not so much tied to each other 
> that there should be a dependency in pyobjc on py2app, installing the
> latter automatically with the former?

I've created an issue for this 
<https://bitbucket.org/ronaldoussoren/pyobjc/issue/59/add-py2app-to-dependency-list-of-pyobjc>.

At the very least the installation of py2app should be mentioned in the 
installation manual for PyObjC and I agree that it would be better to just add 
py2app to the list of install_requires of the PyPI package "pyobjc". 

There is a usecase for not using py2app with pyobjc, for example folks using 
Xcode to build application bundles. However, py2app and its dependencies are 
very small and "forcing" users of pyobjc to install py2app as well isn't really 
a problem. 

If I get bored I'll probably create some Xcode templates that use py2app to do 
the work, but before I do that I need to finish pyobjc 3.0 :-)

Ronald

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