Michael O'Donnell <mi...@wagsoft.com> wrote: > Saw a link to Kivy, which seems to be a newish GUI for > python, works on most platforms, including iOS and Android. > > Anyone played around with it?
I had to upgrade my Mac finally from Leopard to Snow Leopard to get the level of OpenGL support it needs. > Seems to offer a basic canvas with draw ops. On a quick > look, couldn't see any more complex widgets, except > for buttons, but they may be there (the documentation > is not that straight forward). http://kivy.org/docs/guide/widgets.html A fairly complete modern widget set. > Mick (looking for a cross-platform pythin GUI) Aren't we all, Mick? Bill > > > On 10 July 2013 11:35, Paul Wiseman <poal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 9 July 2013 17:12, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <chris.bar...@noaa.gov> > > wrote: > >> > >> oops, sent only to Paul the first time.... > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <chris.bar...@noaa.gov> > >> > >> Paul, > >> > >> > Qt looks great from my first impressions but one thing I'm not too sure > >> > about is how native it can go, I know the controls are native and will > >> > use > >> > carbon/cocoa underneath on mac for example. > >> > >> Personally I've used wxPython for years -- it would be a good option > >> as well (and does use Cocoa under the hood in recent versions, so > >> injecting some custom Ma-only code in there is quite doable. > >> > >> A lot of folks like QT a lot, it may be a good way to go -- honestly, > >> I've stuck with wx mostly due to inertia -- never really considering > >> alternatives. > >> > > > > I've used wxpython a lot in the past, and maintain some code that uses it > > and I do like it, there are a couple of bits that have put me off though. > > There doesn't seem to be an obvious way to implement an MVC type pattern > > with it. I haven't used Qt much at all yet but QML looks extremely > > interesting and pretty powerful. This signal and slots in qt reminds me a > > lot of the outlet actions in the iOS world as well which helps a lot at > > keeping everything de-coupled. I've found an awful lot of bugs with wx over > > the time I've been using it as well which has put me off somewhat, but > > that's probably true for a lot of systems/frameworks of that size that you > > get very familiar with and use a lot. > > > >> > >> However, there is a key design difference -- wx wraps the native > >> widgets, and QT, for the most part, re-implements them with low-level > >> primitives. So while a QT Window is probably a Cocoa Window, the > >> individual buttons, etc are not native. I don't know to what extent > >> you can override this, but I do know that most of the QT apps I've > >> seen on the Mac are not very native: not even using the native file > >> open dialogs and the like. I'd be shocked if you couldn't do better > >> with some care, but QT does not appear to do a very good job of native > >> out of the box. > > > > > > Do you know any Qt apps for mac? It would be quite useful to take a look at > > a few to help weigh up my options. > > > >> > >> > >> wxPython requires a bit of care to look and feel truly native as well, > >> but it gets closer by default. > >> > >> IIUC, PySide is essentially an alternative to PyQT with a different > >> (more liberal) licence. It is certainly under active development. For > >> example, Enthought, Inc is relying on it for a lot of their stuff, and > >> has hired Robin Dunn (ironically the wxPython founder/developer) to > >> work on it. There was a sprint at last weeks' SciPy conference as > >> well. > >> > >> If you do want to cal native code, PYObjC is likely the easiest way, > >> but if that doesn't look right to you, Cython may be worth a shot -- > >> it's a good way to call C and C++ APIs. > >> > >> HTH, > >> -Chris > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Christopher Barker, Ph.D. > >> Oceanographer > >> > >> Emergency Response Division > >> NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice > >> 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax > >> Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception > >> > >> chris.bar...@noaa.gov > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Christopher Barker, Ph.D. > >> Oceanographer > >> > >> Emergency Response Division > >> NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice > >> 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax > >> Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception > >> > >> chris.bar...@noaa.gov > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > >> unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > > unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > Unlimited Disk, Data Transfer, PHP/MySQL Domain Hosting > > http://www.doteasy.com > _______________________________________________ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG _______________________________________________ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
