> On 10 Dec 2014, at 23:11, Ronald Oussoren <ronaldousso...@mac.com> wrote: > I’m not sure how to make serious progress with my current load (both work and > privately). Does anyone have experience with crowd-funding for open-source > work?
I guess not. I’m still interested in idea’s on how to improve development/support for PyObjC. Ronald > On 10 Dec 2014, at 23:11, Ronald Oussoren <ronaldousso...@mac.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > ’Tis the time to be contemplative, and I’ve been thinking a bit about PyObjC, > py2app: what I’d like to do with them, and how much time I have to work on > them. Things don’t quite add up because there’s a lot more that I’d like to > do than I expect to be able to do in any reasonable timeframe. > > In no particular order (and far from complete): > > Finish work to add metadata for APIs introduced in OSX 10.10 and 10.9 (update > existing framework wrappers and add new ones where appropriate) > > It should be pretty straightforward to add metadata now that > objective.metadata is based on libclang (thanks to James Ranking). It is > however still a relatively large amount of work because it is necessary to > manually check which APIs require manual additions to the metadata, and > because I prefer to add unittests for the framework wrappers because those > have caught a fair amount of problems in the past. > > Python 3.4 adds an “asyncio” library (with backports on PyPI). It would be > useful to add a pluggable event loop that integrates with Cocoa’s runloop > (NSRunloop and CFRunloop), and furthermore it would be interesting to see if > the tasks and coroutines from asyncio can be used to simplify Cocoa code: any > Cocoa code with a “completionHandler” argument block might give nicer python > code when used from a coroutine. > > That is, instead of something like: > > def onCompletion(result): > # … > > anObject.runTaskWithCompletionHandler(onCompletion) > > you’d get something like: > > result = anObject.runTask() > # … > > There needs to be a significant example of how to write a GUI without using > XIB files. > To expand on the previous item: there needs to be a non-trivial example for > writing a GUI with PyObjC that addresses issues one commonly runs into with > writing code (aggressivly catch python exceptions before they cause problems > in Cocoa, …). This can be used to enhance PyObjC itself: instead of adding > work-arounds for odd behavior try to address the root cause. > > It’s time to try to refactor py2app into a library that does the work and a > setuptools extension for the API. There are two reasons for that: this gives > us a fighting chance to add useful unittests (py2app’s tests currently are > primarily slow integration tests), and secondly this would make it a lot > easier to design a modern interface that doesn’t rely on setuptools (using a > declarative configuration file, …) > > py2app currently doesn’t support code signing, setuptools metadata, adding > entire eggs/wheels and more. All of those are more and more necessary to ship > the output of py2app outside of a controlled environment and AFAIK a number > of py2app users work around the lack of those features by adding pre- and > post-process scripting around py2app. > > Both py2app and PyObjC need significant work on their documentation. The > documentation for py2app is minimal enough to make it effectively > non-existing. > > PyObjC and py2app need some form of CI, especially for supporting platforms > and libraries I don’t use regularly myself (for example OSX 10.6 support in > PyObjC and support for PyQt in py2app). Something like Jenkins or buildbot > could work, but setting up the infrastructure requires effort. I currently > have to manually test, and due to lack of time I rarely run on older OSX > releases and that seems to have resulted in breakage (for example issue #100 > on PyObjC’s tracker). > > I’m not sure how to make serious progress with my current load (both work and > privately). Does anyone have experience with crowd-funding for open-source > work? > > Ronald > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk_______________________________________________ > Pyobjc-dev mailing list > pyobjc-...@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pyobjc-dev
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