> On 15 Jan 2021, at 06:24, Christopher Barker <python...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 3:14 PM Jack Jansen <jack.jan...@cwi.nl > <mailto:jack.jan...@cwi.nl>> wrote: > For example, the brew Python is installed into a framework tucked away deep > in /usr/local/Cellar but you don’t notice this at all: you can just use > “python foo.py” and the moment the script does GUI calls it’ll get an icon in > the doc and all that. > > What problem are you trying to solve? > > It's interesting that brew python has decided to use a Framework build .... > > But the problem at hand is conda python which used a plain unix build.
Maybe they should switch to a framework build instead :-) > > They have provided a shell script "pythonw" that re-directs to a python > inside an app bundle, and that works OK on the command line, but it does not > work with, e.g. setuptools entry points. > > I could dig up the threads, but this has been discussed on this list, and few > gitHub issues. As mentioned on python-dev adding the “pythonw” functionality to the unix build is not very hard. I expect that integrating with the build system (Makefile/configure script) will be the hardest part due to introducing different behaviour for the macOS platform. > > In short, there are a few ways to work around these issues, but no one (the > conda people, the setuptools devs) wants to put the kludgy work around in > their code. > > And we already have a work around in the core python code, it's just that the > build system needs to be set up to build it outside of a Framework. The framework build does not have a workaround for these problems, it has a proper solution ;-). Ronald > > -CHB > > > > Jack > >> On 14-Jan-2021, at 23:07 , Chris Barker via Pythonmac-SIG >> <pythonmac-sig@python.org <mailto:pythonmac-sig@python.org>> wrote: >> >> Ned suggested I bring this conversation over here from python-dev, so here >> it is. >> >> What I'd like to see done is have the "pythonw" wrapper buildable in an >> otherwise non-framework build. >> >> I *think* there are no real technical show stoppers, but it would take some >> auto-conf magic, which I am fully unqualified to take on. >> >> Anyone interested in helping make this happen ? >> >> -CHB >> >> >> -- >> >> Christopher Barker, Ph.D. >> Oceanographer >> >> Emergency Response Division >> NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice >> 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax >> Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception >> >> chris.bar...@noaa.gov >> <mailto:chris.bar...@noaa.gov>_______________________________________________ >> Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org >> <mailto:Pythonmac-SIG@python.org> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig >> <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig> >> unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG >> <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG> > > -- > Jack Jansen, <jack.jan...@cwi.nl <mailto:jack.jan...@cwi.nl>>, > http://www.cwi.nl/~jack <http://www.cwi.nl/~jack> > If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > <mailto:Pythonmac-SIG@python.org> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig> > unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG > <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG> > > > -- > Christopher Barker, PhD (Chris) > > Python Language Consulting > - Teaching > - Scientific Software Development > - Desktop GUI and Web Development > - wxPython, numpy, scipy, Cython > _______________________________________________ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > <mailto:Pythonmac-SIG@python.org> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig> > unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG > <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG> — Twitter / micro.blog: @ronaldoussoren Blog: https://blog.ronaldoussoren.net/
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