Hi,

I encountered what I believe is the same issue as others. This happens on
my integraality tool with entirely read-only operations, without any hits
on the Query service.

I filed <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244030> with my investigations
and the tracing showing how Pywikibot spent over 25 minutes doing a
page.templatesWithParams().

Hope that helps,

-- Jean-Fred

Le ven. 31 janv. 2020 à 18:32, AntiCompositeNumber <
[email protected]> a écrit :

> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243701
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:01 AM Albert Villanova del Moral
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Have you finally created a ticket for this issue? It is very annoying:
> sometimes, more than 30 minutes "sleeping".
> >
> > Regards,
> > Albert.
> >
> > Albert VILLANOVA DEL MORAL
> > Phone: +33 6 24 20 42 38
> > Email: [email protected]
> >
> >
> > Missatge de Amir Sarabadani <[email protected]> del dia ds., 25 de
> gen. 2020 a les 23:55:
> >>
> >> I would recommend creating a ticket against search platform team as
> this is due to WDQS nodes being behind Wikidata's production.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 11:27 PM Strainu <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I can confirm the throttling is caused by Wikidata. Not sure why I
> >>> didn't see it before, as I was using that api query that you gave
> >>> above. Are there some (known) issues currently or should I log a bug
> >>> on this?
> >>>
> >>> Strainu
> >>>
> >>> În dum., 26 ian. 2020 la 00:01, Amir Sarabadani <[email protected]>
> a scris:
> >>> >
> >>> > It should be accessible in
> https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000156/wikidata-dispatch?orgId=1&refresh=1m&fullscreen&panelId=22
> but I'm not sure why other types of max lag is not showing up.
> >>> >
> >>> > You can also check maxlag like this:
> https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=MediaWiki&format=json&maxlag=-1
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 10:53 PM Strainu <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Actually, now that you mention it, it might be because of wikidata -
> >>> >> I read stuff from there in all affected scripts. If I get throttled
> >>> >> there 5s for each element, this might account for the long delays.
> Let
> >>> >> me see if I can print some debug data. Any suggestion on what I
> should
> >>> >> look for regarding Wikidata lag?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> În sâm., 25 ian. 2020 la 23:48, Strainu <[email protected]> a
> scris:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > All sites. Currently I also encounter other issues (connection
> >>> >> > timeouts), but the throttling has been going on for days (at least
> >>> >> > since 1/20).
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > În sâm., 25 ian. 2020 la 23:46, Amir Sarabadani <
> [email protected]> a scris:
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > Is it Wikidata only it's all sites? Wikidata uses another set
> of measures for maxlag, like lag between dispatching to other wiki and lag
> to WDQS.
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > HTH
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 10:40 PM Strainu <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> >> > >>
> >>> >> > >> Hi,
> >>> >> > >>
> >>> >> > >> In the last few days my bots get throttled for minutes and
> minutes (up
> >>> >> > >> to 10, on the worse instances) on basically all sites I use
> (ro.wp,
> >>> >> > >> commons, wikidata). I knew about write throttle and I use the
> default
> >>> >> > >> setting there, but it seems that now I get throttled on read
> >>> >> > >> operations as well. I use pwb from git, currently synced at
> >>> >> > >> 0924e1655ef9e61c86e98884226b18d8250da368.
> >>> >> > >>
> >>> >> > >> I checked the server lag and it is 0 most times I see the
> throttling.
> >>> >> > >> Any idea why do I get throttled for such long periods of time?
> >>> >> > >>
> >>> >> > >> Thanks,
> >>> >> > >>   Strainu
> >>> >> > >>
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> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > --
> >>> >> > > Amir (he/him)
> >>> >> > >
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> >>> >
> >>> >
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> >>> >
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Jean-Frédéric
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