Hey!

On 7/29/14, Merlijn van Deen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Amir,
>
> On 27 July 2014 07:14, Amir Ladsgroup <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Another thing: pywikipedia-l isn't a hospitable place?
>
>
> Today, I discussed this with Frances and Sumana a bit, and these are my
> thoughts on it. Basically, I think there are several things we could
> improve on. It's not so much that pywikipedia-l is inhospitable, it's
> rather that it's not as hospitable we could make it.
>
> There are three points I can think of: 'passive inhospitability', in that
> e-mails sometimes do not get answered. Luckily, you are always very quick
> in replying to new users, which is great! Still, some mails stay
> unanswered, and we (as pywikipedia-l) could improve on that. Maybe we can
> also mention on the mailing list page that IRC might be a better choice
> than the mailing list for people just getting started to get help.

Thank you :) Sometimes I can't be online for a while otherwise I'll
answer them as soon as I can. but saying IRC is a better place, I
doubt that because I saw several times A person came and asked but
since there was no one online (no one who checks the channel) the
question remained unanswered.
>
> Secondly, a lot of the discussion on-list is aimed at experienced
> developers, and assumes a high level of understanding of pywikibot. This
> can scare people away that want to ask a simple question. This is something
> we could improve by maybe explicitly mentioning on the mailing list page
> that basic questions are very welcome, and by actively promoting
> discussions with people who are unsure how to contribute.

I agree :)
>
> Thirdly, there is 'active inhospitability', which can range from 'RTFM'
> emails to venting frustration to berating others. Pywikipedia-l (or any
> other mailing list, for that matter) is /not/ the place for that. I've
> fallen for the 'venting frustration' a myself, but it's important to keep
> in mind this shapes the image of the project for people who may not be
> actively participating at the moment. They might not participate because of
> a negative atmosphere. Please send frustration-venting emails to me ;-),
> and send only the constructive mails to the mailing list :-)

As I told before If pywikibot doesn't work properly you can yell at me
;) no matter it's my fault or not. so please if you angry about
something in pywikibot please send your e-mail to me not here.
>
> Merlijn
>


-- 
Amir

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