On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Greg Grossmeier <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I fear much of the worry about Beta Cluster is due to the rocky
> transition to HHVM (which was less than ideal). We are better
> equipped/able to deal with such changes in the future right now (and
> we are no longer experiencing HHVM-related issues, afaict).
>

We've been told this many times, i.e. "Don't worry, the problems are all in
the past." Yet Beta Labs keep having serious outages on a weekly basis.
Just a few days after you sent this email, mobile Beta Labs had a nearly
full-day outage which caused serious headaches for both the mobile and VE
teams.[1] I would totally love to stay on the existing Beta Labs cluster,
but we just keep having these outages week after week, despite assurances
that things would stabilize. This is a major pain point that we need to
have addressed in some way or another. Would spinning up an Alpha Labs
cluster (for experimental features) be a reasonable solution?

1. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72997

Ryan Kaldari
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