Hi Peter,

On 11/4/24 17:30, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 at 15:34, Eric Auger <eric.au...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Hi Kashyap,
>>
>> On 10/28/24 22:17, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 12:17:40PM +0200, Eric Auger wrote:
>>>> From: Cornelia Huck <coh...@redhat.com>
>>>>
>>>> Add some documentation for the custom model.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Eric Auger <eric.au...@redhat.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Cornelia Huck <coh...@redhat.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  docs/system/arm/cpu-features.rst | 55 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
>>>>  1 file changed, 47 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/docs/system/arm/cpu-features.rst 
>>>> b/docs/system/arm/cpu-features.rst
>>>> index a5fb929243..962a2c6c26 100644
>>>> --- a/docs/system/arm/cpu-features.rst
>>>> +++ b/docs/system/arm/cpu-features.rst
>>>> @@ -2,7 +2,10 @@ Arm CPU Features
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> +Using the ``host`` type means the guest is provided all the same CPU
>>>> +features as the host CPU type has.  And, for this reason, the ``host``
>>>> +CPU type should enable all CPU features that the host has by default.
>>>> +
>>>> +In case some features need to be hidden to the guest, ``custom`` model
>>>> +shall be used instead. This is especially useful for migration purpose.
>>>> +
>>>> +The ``custom`` CPU model generally is the better choice if you want more
>>>> +flexibility or stability across different machines or with different 
>>>> kernel
>>>> +versions.
>>> Does "more flexibility or stability across different machines" also
>>> imply "live migration compatiblity across host CPUs"?
>> yes that's the goal
>>>> However, even the ``custom`` CPU model will not allow configuring
>>>> +an arbitrary set of features; the ID registers must describe a subset of 
>>>> the
>>>> +host's features, and all differences to the host's configuration must 
>>>> actually
>>>> +be supported by the kernel to be deconfigured.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> +The ``custom`` CPU model needs to be configured via individual ID register
>>>> +field properties, for example::
>>>> +
>>>> +  $ qemu-system-aarch64 -M virt -cpu custom,SYSREG_ID_AA64ISAR0_EL1_DP=0x0
>>> If possible, it would be really helpful (and user-friendly) to be able
>>> to specify the CPU feature names as you see under /proc/cpuinfo, and be
>>> able to turn the flags on or off:
>>>
>>>         -M virt -cpu franken,rndr=on,ts=on,fhm=off
>>>
>>> (... instead of specifying long system register IDs that groups together
>>> a bunch of CPU features.  If I understand it correctly, the register
>>> "ID_AA64ISAR0_EL1" maps to a set of visible features listed here:
>>> https://docs.kernel.org/arch/arm64/cpu-feature-registers.html)
>> Not all the writable ID regs are visible through the above technique.
>> But indeed I think we converged on the idea to use higher level feature
>> names than ID reg field values.
>> However we need to study the feasibility and mappings between those high
>> level features and ID reg field values.
>> The cons is that we need to describe this mapping manually. Besides
>> being cumbersome this is also error prone.
> You might be interested in "Arm Architecture Features" on
> https://developer.arm.com/Architectures/A-Profile%20Architecture#Downloads
> which includes a 1.8MB Features.json which is a machine
> readable version of the "what are the features and their
> dependencies and ID registers and so on" information.
thank you for the link.
>
> But note that (a) it is alpha quality and (b) I am not personally
> going to try to interpret what might be reasonable to do with it
> based on the legal notice attached to it: that's a matter for
> you and your lawyer ;-)

Thank you for the notice. This may be similar to the ARM xml mentioned
by Marc...

Eric
>
> -- PMM
>


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