Hi Cédric,

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Cédric Le Goater <c...@redhat.com>
>Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/20] hw/pci: Introduce
>pci_device_get_viommu_cap()
>
>Hello Zhenzhong
>
>On 7/29/25 11:20, Zhenzhong Duan wrote:
>> Introduce a new PCIIOMMUOps optional callback, get_viommu_cap() which
>> allows to retrieve capabilities exposed by a vIOMMU. The first planned
>                                                vIOMMU device
>
>"device" is implied, but I find it easier to understand if it is stated
>openly.

Will do.

>
>> capability is VIOMMU_CAP_HW_NESTED that advertises the support of HW
>> nested stage translation scheme. pci_device_get_viommu_cap is a wrapper
>> that can be called on a PCI device potentially protected by a vIOMMU.
>>
>> get_viommu_cap() is designed to return 64bit bitmap of purely emulated
>> capabilities which are only derermined by user's configuration, no host
>
>typo: determined

Will fix.

>
>> capabilities involved. Reasons are:
>>
>> 1. there can be more than one host IOMMUs with different capabilities
>
>"host IOMMU devices"

Will do.

>
>Such as iommufd and VFIO IOMMU Type1 ?

Not VFIO iommu backend, I mean host iommu hardware units.

>
>> 2. there can also be more than one vIOMMUs with different user
>>     configuration, e.g., arm smmuv3.
>> 3. This is migration friendly, return value is consistent between source
>>     and target.
>> 4. It's too late for VFIO to call get_viommu_cap() after set_iommu_device()
>>     because we need get_viommu_cap() to determine if creating nested
>parent
>>     hwpt or not at attaching stage, meanwhile hiod realize needs
>iommufd,
>
>hiod -> "host IOMMU device"

Will do.

>
>>     devid and hwpt_id which are ready after attach_device().
>
>I find the above sentence difficult to understand.

This is trying to explain the reason of order between attach_device(), 
get_viommu_cap() and hiod realizing.
What about:

4. host IOMMU capabilities are passed to vIOMMU through set_iommu_device()
   interface which have to be after attach_device(), when get_viommu_cap()
   is called in attach_device(), there is no way for vIOMMU to get host
   IOMMU capabilities yet, so only emulated capabilities can be returned.
   See below sequence:

     attach_device()
       get_viommu_cap()
       create hwpt
     ...
     vfio_device_hiod_create_and_realize()
     set_iommu_device(hiod)


>
>
>>     See below sequence:
>>
>>       attach_device()
>>         get_viommu_cap()
>>         create hwpt
>>       ...
>>       create hiod
>>       set_iommu_device(hiod)
>>
>> Suggested-by: Yi Liu <yi.l....@intel.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.d...@intel.com>
>> ---
>>   MAINTAINERS          |  1 +
>>   include/hw/iommu.h   | 17 +++++++++++++++++
>>   include/hw/pci/pci.h | 25 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   hw/pci/pci.c         | 11 +++++++++++
>>   4 files changed, 54 insertions(+)
>>   create mode 100644 include/hw/iommu.h
>>
>> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
>> index 37879ab64e..840cb1e604 100644
>> --- a/MAINTAINERS
>> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
>> @@ -2304,6 +2304,7 @@ F: include/system/iommufd.h
>>   F: backends/host_iommu_device.c
>>   F: include/system/host_iommu_device.h
>>   F: include/qemu/chardev_open.h
>> +F: include/hw/iommu.h
>>   F: util/chardev_open.c
>>   F: docs/devel/vfio-iommufd.rst
>>
>> diff --git a/include/hw/iommu.h b/include/hw/iommu.h
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 0000000000..021db50db5
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/include/hw/iommu.h
>> @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@
>> +/*
>> + * General vIOMMU capabilities, flags, etc
>> + *
>> + * Copyright (C) 2025 Intel Corporation.
>> + *
>> + * SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-or-later
>> + */
>> +
>> +#ifndef HW_IOMMU_H
>> +#define HW_IOMMU_H
>> +
>> +enum {
>> +    /* hardware nested stage-1 page table support */
>> +    VIOMMU_CAP_HW_NESTED = BIT_ULL(0),
>> +};
>> +
>> +#endif /* HW_IOMMU_H */
>> diff --git a/include/hw/pci/pci.h b/include/hw/pci/pci.h
>> index 6b7d3ac8a3..d89aefc030 100644
>> --- a/include/hw/pci/pci.h
>> +++ b/include/hw/pci/pci.h
>> @@ -462,6 +462,21 @@ typedef struct PCIIOMMUOps {
>>        * @devfn: device and function number of the PCI device.
>>        */
>>       void (*unset_iommu_device)(PCIBus *bus, void *opaque, int devfn);
>> +    /**
>> +     * @get_viommu_cap: get vIOMMU capabilities
>> +     *
>> +     * Optional callback, if not implemented, then vIOMMU doesn't
>> +     * support exposing capabilities to other subsystem, e.g., VFIO.
>> +     * vIOMMU can choose which capabilities to expose.
>> +     *
>> +     * @opaque: the data passed to pci_setup_iommu().
>> +     *
>> +     * Returns: 64bit bitmap with each bit represents a capability
>emulated by
>> +     * VIOMMU_CAP_* in include/hw/iommu.h, these capabilities are
>theoretical
>> +     * which are only determined by user's configuration and
>independent on the
>
>What is meant by "user's configuration" ? the vIOMMU device properties ?

Yes, I mean user's qemu cmdline configuration.

>
>> +     * actual host capabilities they may depend on.
>> +     */
>> +    uint64_t (*get_viommu_cap)(void *opaque);
>>       /**
>>        * @get_iotlb_info: get properties required to initialize a device
>IOTLB.
>>        *
>> @@ -642,6 +657,16 @@ bool pci_device_set_iommu_device(PCIDevice
>*dev, HostIOMMUDevice *hiod,
>>                                    Error **errp);
>>   void pci_device_unset_iommu_device(PCIDevice *dev);
>>
>> +/**
>> + * pci_device_get_viommu_cap: get vIOMMU capabilities.
>> + *
>> + * Returns a 64bit bitmap with each bit represents a vIOMMU exposed
>> + * capability, 0 if vIOMMU doesn't support esposing capabilities.
>
>exposing

Will fix.

Thanks
Zhenzhong

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