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> From: Eric Auger <eric.au...@redhat.com>
> Sent: 05 September 2025 09:43
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> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 06/15] hw/arm/smmuv3-accel: Restrict
> accelerated SMMUv3 to vfio-pci endpoints with iommufd
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> On 7/14/25 5:59 PM, Shameer Kolothum wrote:
> > Accelerated SMMUv3 is only useful when the device can take advantage
> > of the host's SMMUv3 in nested mode. To keep things simple and
> > correct, we only allow this feature for vfio-pci endpoint devices that
> > use the iommufd backend. We also allow non-endpoint emulated devices
> > like PCI bridges and root ports, so that users can plug in these vfio-pci
> devices.
> >
> > Another reason for this limit is to avoid problems with IOTLB
> > invalidations. Some commands (e.g., CMD_TLBI_NH_ASID) lack an
> > associated SID, making it difficult to trace the originating device.
> > If we allowed emulated endpoint devices, QEMU would have to invalidate
> > both its own software IOTLB and the host's hardware IOTLB, which could
> > slow things down.
> >
> > Since vfio-pci devices in nested mode rely on the host SMMUv3's nested
> > translation (S1+S2), their get_address_space() callback must return
> > the system address space to enable correct S2 mappings of guest RAM.
> >
> > So in short:
> >  - vfio-pci devices return the system address space
> >  - bridges and root ports return the IOMMU address space
> >
> > Note: On ARM, MSI doorbell addresses are also translated via SMMUv3.
> > Hence, if a vfio-pci device is behind the SMMuv3 with translation
> > enabled, it must return the IOMMU address space for MSI. Support for
> > this will be added in a follow-up patch.
> It sounds antithetical to what is said above:
> 
> "vfio-pci devices return the system address space"

This is not related to this patch per se. I only added the note to
highlight that address space for MSI translation required in nested case
is addressed later in this series(patch  #11). I can remove this note
if it is not helping and causing confusion 😊.

Thanks,
Shameer


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