On 09/03/2017 16:29, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> If VFIO had an iommu property, to be used like "-device
>> intel_iommu,id=iommu0 -device vfio-pci,iommu=iommu0", It could tell VFIO
>> to use separate containers and also ensure proper ordering of command
>> line arguments.
>
> Lots of guests can't handle arbitrary stuff like this though.
> Normally IOMMU attaches to a bus and that's the only bus it can
> handle and that's the only IOMMU that can handle the devices
> on this bus.
> 
> It's a fact of life that not all hardware dependencies are in a form of
> a bus-device relashionship, while modelling it as a bus internally might
> be feasible exposing that to users seems risky and confusing as that's
> our artifact.

I'm not saying it's a bus.

But it's pretty common to have multiple IOMMUs for one bus.  A
relatively common case is to have one for the graphics card and one for
everything else, if I'm not mistaken.

Paolo

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