On Fri, 29 May 2020, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 08:58:06AM -0500, Eric Blake wrote: > > On 5/29/20 8:50 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > > >>>(2) You need to persuade qemu's NBD client to read from a WebSocket. > > >>>I didn't really know anything about WebSockets until today but it > > >>>seems as if they are a full-duplex protocol layered on top of HTTP [a]. > > >>>Is there a WebSocket proxy that turns WS into plain TCP (a bit like > > >>>stunnel)? Google suggests [b]. > > >>> > > >>>[a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebSocket#Protocol_handshake > > >>>[b] https://github.com/novnc/websockify > > >> > > >>qemu already knows how to connect as a client to websockets; Dan Berrange > > >>knows more about that setup. I suspect it would not be too difficult to > > >>teach the qemu NBD client code to use a WebSocket instead of a Unix or TCP > > >>socket as its data source. > > > > > >Actually the inverse. The QIOChannelWebsocket impl is only the server > > >side of the problem, as used by QEMU's VNC server. We've never implemented > > >the client side. There is nothing especially stopping us doing that - just > > >needs someone motivated with time to work on it. > > > > In the meantime, you may still be able to set up something like: > > > > local machine: > > iso -> NBD server -> Unix socket -> websockify -> WebSocket > > I guess the idea is to have a zero-install solution for the browser. > As I said in the email earlier this is very common for IPMI-type > remote access to blade servers and in my experience is implemented > using a Java applet and a proprietary protocol terminated at the BMC > (which then emulates a virtual CDROM to the server). There are some > HP blade servers on Red Hat's internal Beaker instance where you can > play with this. For qemu we wouldn't need to invent a new protocol > when NBD is available and already implemented (albeit not yet on top > of WebSockets). > > The NBD server must run inside the browser and therefore be either > written from scratch in Javascript, or an existing server > cross-compiled to WASM (if that is possible - I don't really know).
Interesting idea about WASM. I'll see if I can build one of the simple nbd servers that are around. Not sure how to link it to the JS file IO, however. -- Eric Wheeler > > remote machine: > > WebSocket -> websockify -> Unix socket -> qemu NBD client > > > > Adding websocket client support into qemu would reduce the length of > > the chain slightly (for less data copying) by getting rid of a > > websockify proxy middleman, but would not necessarily improve > > performance (it's hard to say where the latency bottlenecks will be > > in the chain). > > Rich. > > -- > Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones > Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com > libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting, > bindings from many languages. http://libguestfs.org > >