On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:14:37AM +0800, wangyanan (Y) wrote:
> On 2021/4/28 18:31, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 04:31:45PM +0800, Yanan Wang wrote:
> > > } else if (sockets == 0) {
> > > threads = threads > 0 ? threads : 1;
> > > - sockets = cpus / (cores * threads);
> > > + sockets = cpus / (clusters * cores * threads);
> > > sockets = sockets > 0 ? sockets : 1;
> > If we initialize clusters to zero instead of one and add lines in
> > 'cpus == 0 || cores == 0' and 'sockets == 0' like
> > 'clusters = clusters > 0 ? clusters : 1' as needed, then I think we can
> > add
> >
> > } else if (clusters == 0) {
> > threads = threads > 0 ? threads : 1;
> > clusters = cpus / (sockets * cores * thread);
> > clusters = clusters > 0 ? clusters : 1;
> > }
> >
> > here.
> I have thought about this kind of format before, but there is a little bit
> difference between these two ways. Let's chose the better and more
> reasonable one of the two.
>
> Way A currently in this patch:
> If value of clusters is not explicitly specified in -smp command line, we
> assume
> that users don't want to support clusters, for compatibility we initialized
> the
> value to 1. So that with cmdline "-smp cpus=24, sockets=2, cores=6", we will
> parse out the topology description like below:
> cpus=24, sockets=2, clusters=1, cores=6, threads=2
>
> Way B that you suggested for this patch:
> Whether value of clusters is explicitly specified in -smp command line or
> not,
> we assume that clusters are supported and calculate the value. So that with
> cmdline "-smp cpus=24, sockets=2, cores=6", we will parse out the topology
> description like below:
> cpus =24, sockets=2, clusters=2, cores=6, threads=1
>
> But I think maybe we should not assume too much about what users think
> through the -smp command line. We should just assume that all levels of
> cpu topology are supported and calculate them, and users should be more
> careful if they want to get the expected results with not so complete
> cmdline.
> If I'm right, then Way B should be better. :)
>
Hi Yanan,
We're already assuming the user wants to describe clusters to the guest
because we require at least one per socket. If we want the user to have a
choice between using clusters or not, then I guess we need to change the
logic in the PPTT and the cpu-map to only generate the cluster level when
the number of clusters is not zero. And then change this parser to not
require clusters at all.
I'm not a big fan of these auto-calculated values either, but the
documentation says that it'll do that, and it's been done that way
forever, so I think we're stuck with it for the -smp option. Hmm, I was
just about to say that x86 computes all its values, but I see the most
recently added one, 'dies', is implemented the way you're proposing we
implement 'clusters', i.e. default to one and don't calculate it when it's
missing. I actually consider that either a documentation bug or an smp
parsing bug, though.
Another possible option, for Arm, because only the cpus and maxcpus
parameters of -smp have ever worked, is to document, for Arm, that if even
one parameter other than cpus or maxcpus is provided, then all parameters
must be provided. We can still decide if clusters=0 is valid, but we'll
enforce that everything is explicit and that the product (with or without
clusters) matches maxcpus.
Requiring every parameter might be stricter than necessary, though, I
think we're mostly concerned with cpus/maxcpus, sockets, and cores.
clusters can default to one or zero (whatever we choose and document),
threads can default to one, and cpus can default to maxcpus or maxcpus can
default to cpus, but at least one of those must be provided. And, if
sockets are provided, then cores must be provided and vice versa. If
neither sockets nor cores are provided, then nothing else besides cpus and
maxcpus may be provided, and that would mean to not generate any topology
descriptions for the guest.
Thanks,
drew
