On 22/01/2023 10:16, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 07:37:18PM +0200, Anton Kuchin wrote:
On 20/01/2023 15:58, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 03:45:06PM +0200, Anton Kuchin wrote:
On 19/01/2023 14:51, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 07:09:03PM +0200, Anton Kuchin wrote:
Now any vhost-user-fs device makes VM unmigratable, that also prevents
qemu update without stopping the VM. In most cases that makes sense
because qemu has no way to transfer FUSE session state.

But we can give an option to orchestrator to override this if it can
guarantee that state will be preserved (e.g. it uses migration to
update qemu and dst will run on the same host as src and use the same
socket endpoints).

This patch keeps default behavior that prevents migration with such devices
but adds migration capability 'vhost-user-fs' to explicitly allow migration.

Signed-off-by: Anton Kuchin <antonkuc...@yandex-team.ru>
---
    hw/virtio/vhost-user-fs.c | 25 ++++++++++++++++++++++++-
    qapi/migration.json       |  7 ++++++-
    2 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/hw/virtio/vhost-user-fs.c b/hw/virtio/vhost-user-fs.c
index f5049735ac..13d920423e 100644
--- a/hw/virtio/vhost-user-fs.c
+++ b/hw/virtio/vhost-user-fs.c
@@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
    #include "hw/virtio/vhost-user-fs.h"
    #include "monitor/monitor.h"
    #include "sysemu/sysemu.h"
+#include "migration/migration.h"
    static const int user_feature_bits[] = {
        VIRTIO_F_VERSION_1,
@@ -298,9 +299,31 @@ static struct vhost_dev *vuf_get_vhost(VirtIODevice *vdev)
        return &fs->vhost_dev;
    }
+static int vhost_user_fs_pre_save(void *opaque)
+{
+    MigrationState *s = migrate_get_current();
+
+    if (!s->enabled_capabilities[MIGRATION_CAPABILITY_VHOST_USER_FS]) {
+        error_report("Migration of vhost-user-fs devices requires internal FUSE 
"
+                     "state of backend to be preserved. If orchestrator can "
+                     "guarantee this (e.g. dst connects to the same backend "
+                     "instance or backend state is migrated) set 'vhost-user-fs' 
"
+                     "migration capability to true to enable migration.");
Isn't it possible that some backends are same and some are not?
Shouldn't this be a device property then?
If some are not the same it is not guaranteed that correct FUSE
state is present there, so orchestrator shouldn't set the capability
because this can result in destination devices being broken (they'll
be fine after the remount in guest, but this is guest visible and is
not acceptable).

I can imagine smart orchestrator and backend that can transfer
internal FUSE state, but we are not there yet, and this would be
their responsibility then to ensure endpoint compatibility between src
and dst and set the capability (that's why I put "e.g." and "or" in
the error description).
So instead of relying on the orchestrator how about making it a device
property?
We have to rely on the orchestrator here and I can't see how a property
can help us with this: same device can be migratable or not depending
on if the destination is the same host, what features backend supports,
how management software works and other factors of environment that
are not accessible from qemu or backend daemon.
So in the end we'll end up with orchestrator having to setup flags for
each device before each migration based on information only it can
have - in my opinion this is worse than just giving the orchestrator
a single flag that it can set after calculating the decision for
the particular migration that it organizes.



+        return -1;
+    }
+
+    return 0;
+}
+
    static const VMStateDescription vuf_vmstate = {
        .name = "vhost-user-fs",
-    .unmigratable = 1,
+    .minimum_version_id = 0,
+    .version_id = 0,
+    .fields = (VMStateField[]) {
+        VMSTATE_VIRTIO_DEVICE,
+        VMSTATE_END_OF_LIST()
+    },
+   .pre_save = vhost_user_fs_pre_save,
    };
    static Property vuf_properties[] = {
diff --git a/qapi/migration.json b/qapi/migration.json
index 88ecf86ac8..9a229ea884 100644
--- a/qapi/migration.json
+++ b/qapi/migration.json
@@ -477,6 +477,11 @@
    #                    will be handled faster.  This is a performance feature 
and
    #                    should not affect the correctness of postcopy 
migration.
    #                    (since 7.1)
+# @vhost-user-fs: If enabled, the migration process will allow migration of
+#                 vhost-user-fs devices, this should be enabled only when
+#                 backend can preserve local FUSE state e.g. for qemu update
+#                 when dst reconects to the same endpoints after migration.
+#                 (since 8.0)
    #
    # Features:
    # @unstable: Members @x-colo and @x-ignore-shared are experimental.
@@ -492,7 +497,7 @@
               'dirty-bitmaps', 'postcopy-blocktime', 'late-block-activate',
               { 'name': 'x-ignore-shared', 'features': [ 'unstable' ] },
               'validate-uuid', 'background-snapshot',
-           'zero-copy-send', 'postcopy-preempt'] }
+           'zero-copy-send', 'postcopy-preempt', 'vhost-user-fs'] }
I kind of dislike that it's such a specific flag. Is only vhost-user-fs
ever going to be affected? Any way to put it in a way that is more generic?
Here I agree with you: I would prefer less narrow naming too. But I
didn't manage to come up with one. Looks like many other vhost-user
devices could benefit from this so maybe "vhost-user-stateless" or
something like this would be better.
I'm not sure that other types of devices could handle reconnect to
the old endpoint as easy as vhost-user-fs, but anyway the support for
this flag needs to be implemented for each device individually.
What do you think? Any ideas would be appreciated.
Let's try to create a better description of when this flag should be
set. Then shorten it up to create the name.
This flag should be set when qemu don't need to worry about any
external state stored in vhost-user daemons during migration:
don't fail migration, just pack generic virtio device states to
migration stream and orchestrator guarantees that the rest of the
state will be present at the destination to restore full context and
continue running.
Sorry  I still do not get it.  So fundamentally, why do we need this property?
vhost-user-fs is not created by default that we'd then need opt-in to
the special "migrateable" case.
That's why I said it might make some sense as a device property as qemu
tracks whether device is unplugged for us.

But as written, if you are going to teach the orchestrator about
vhost-user-fs and its special needs, just teach it when to migrate and
where not to migrate.

Either we describe the special situation to qemu and let qemu
make an intelligent decision whether to allow migration,
or we trust the orchestrator. And if it's the latter, then 'migrate'
already says orchestrator decided to migrate.

The problem I'm trying to solve is that most of vhost-user devices
now block migration in qemu. And this makes sense since qemu can't
extract and transfer backend daemon state. But this prevents us from
updating qemu executable via local migration. So this flag is
intended more as a safety check that says "I know what I'm doing".

I agree that it is not really necessary if we trust the orchestrator
to request migration only when the migration can be performed in a
safe way. But changing the current behavior of vhost-user-fs from
"always blocks migration" to "migrates partial state whenever
orchestrator requests it" seems a littleĀ  dangerous and can be
misinterpreted as full support for migration in all cases.


    ##
    # @MigrationCapabilityStatus:
--
2.34.1

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