On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 08:27, Michael S. Tsirkin <m...@redhat.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2023 at 05:13:26PM -0400, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > One more question: > > > > Why is the disabled state not needed by regular (non-vhost) virtio-net > > devices? > > Tap does the same - it purges queued packets: > > int tap_disable(NetClientState *nc) > { > TAPState *s = DO_UPCAST(TAPState, nc, nc); > int ret; > > if (s->enabled == 0) { > return 0; > } else { > ret = tap_fd_disable(s->fd); > if (ret == 0) { > qemu_purge_queued_packets(nc); > s->enabled = false; > tap_update_fd_handler(s); > } > return ret; > } > }
tap_disable() is not equivalent to the vhost-user "started but disabled" ring state. tap_disable() is a synchronous one-time action, while "started but disabled" is a continuous state. The "started but disabled" ring state isn't needed to achieve this. The back-end can just drop tx buffers upon receiving VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE .num=0. The history of the spec is curious. VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE was introduced before the the "started but disabled" state was defined, and it explicitly mentions tap attach/detach: commit 7263a0ad7899994b719ebed736a1119cc2e08110 Author: Changchun Ouyang <changchun.ouy...@intel.com> Date: Wed Sep 23 12:20:01 2015 +0800 vhost-user: add a new message to disable/enable a specific virt queue. Add a new message, VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE, to enable or disable a specific virt queue, which is similar to attach/detach queue for tap device. and then later: commit c61f09ed855b5009f816242ce281fd01586d4646 Author: Michael S. Tsirkin <m...@redhat.com> Date: Mon Nov 23 12:48:52 2015 +0200 vhost-user: clarify start and enable > > what about non tap backends? I suspect they just aren't > used widely with multiqueue so no one noticed. I still don't understand why "started but disabled" is needed instead of just two ring states: enabled and disabled. It seems like the cleanest path going forward is to keep the "ignore rx, discard tx" semantics for virtio-net devices but to clarify in the spec that other device types do not process the ring: " * started but disabled: the back-end must not process the ring. For legacy reasons there is an exception for the networking device, where the back-end must process and discard any TX packets and not process other rings. " What do you think? Stefan