2015-08-03 12:39 GMT+02:00 Vincent Picavet (ml) <[email protected]>:
> Hello, > > On 03/08/2015 10:23, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote: > > In a separate thread, Neal raises the point below. Moving it to a > > separate thread here. > > > > Nyal asks: "... On a semi-related theme, we really need a core "QGIS > > update available" plugin. I suspect there's a ton of users still on > > 2.8.0/.1/<2.8 just due to not knowing there's a new version out. This > > could also be really handy for tracking stats of users..." > > > > @Nyall: we already have an menu item: Help/Check QGIS version > > But I just checked, and in 2.8.3 it says that I should update to 2.10, > > so I think that is more or less broken since we do LTR versions... > > Repairing this feature, and maybe having an automated background check > at startup would be good for this feature. > > > And we did have this ping back discussion earlier, resulting in "we > > cannot do it because of the privacy issues". > > > > Though I'm pretty privacy-minded, I am actually in favour of a ping back! > > > > Given the following plan, does that guarantee enough privacy for people > > who were against it earlier: > > > > - during first creation of .qgis2 user folder (upon first installation) > > we generate some uuid (based on currentime+somerandom) > > - upon later startups QGIS fires a HTTP GET request to a webserver which > > contains this UUID + the language + current version used > > - this request is handled by a separate apache or nginx server which > > does nothing more then logging this, and returning the (for that branch) > > latest version. Which is checked for by QGIS > > - by simple analysing the logs (grepping) we can have some info about > > our user-base (number of installs given a period of time) and even a > > live 'currently QGISsing'-guess :-) > > > > Can privacy concerning people live with this plan? > > Not me. > > Any personal information sent by the user should only be done on a > volontary basis. > > I would agree with this if : > * This is optional > * This is not activated by default > * The installer could ask the user if he wants to send statistics to the > QGIS project, with a list of data items sent. > > > As an argument to allowing these pingbacks, as we/I invest pretty much > > time in localisation around QGIS, it would make me feel better if I know > > that all this work is actually be used by some people :-) > > User statistics are indeed very important. Privacy is just way more > important, especially in these troubled times. I do think we, as > opensource community members, and digital era citizens, have to show the > way. Do not ever do things users would consider evil without getting > their agreement. > > Regards, > Vincent > > I fully agree with Vincent's opinion. Regards. -- Alessandro Pasotti w3: www.itopen.it
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