Thank you Marco! Much appreciated. 

Andreas 

On 2015-11-24 16:36, Marco Hugentobler wrote: 

> Hi all
> 
> I had a detailed look with the debugger at what happens in the different 
> versions. It turned out fTools does indeed handle geometry collections, but 
> assumed a geometry collection has wkb type 'unknown' (which was true <= 2.8, 
> but now geometry collections are not unknown anymore). Commit 
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/commit/594fafe73b80d91d94b962c2e51aea0b0168a08a 
> should solve the issue and bring back the old behaviour.
> 
> Regards,
> Marco
> 
> On 24.11.2015 11:29, Marco Hugentobler wrote: 
> On 24.11.2015 11:13, Matthias Kuhn wrote: Hi Marco
> 
> On 11/24/2015 11:01 AM, Marco Hugentobler wrote: 
> Hi Alessandro, Matthias
> 
>> Is there no requirement for multi types?
> 
> Afaik, the problem for f-tools are not the multi types, but only the geometry 
> collections (containing geometries with different shape type). In my 
> experience, if geos returns a geometry collection, it usually contains one 
> 'expected' geometry and the others are slivers (@strk, please correct me if 
> wrong). 
> I was mostly thinking about collections that contain a multitype with several 
> parts which are not considered slivers. This seems to be a very valid 
> scenario.

It is, but it was also not handled by f-tools <= 2.8.

>>> Based on what indicator should be chosen what to extract? Try polygons 
>>> first, if there are none try lines, if there are none take points?  
>> 
>> One possibility would be to pass the expected shapetype (Point / Line / 
>> Polygon) to the function and take the best candidate (e.g. longest line, 
>> largest polygon area).
> 
> Before the geometry changes, the algorithms were able to provide the results 
> without this additional information. How was that done?

Not sure. Maybe the logic in the geos -> QgsGeometry conversion handled
the collections differently.

Regards,
Marco

>>> How much effort (in time) do you think is required to implement this fix?
>> 
>> Difficult to estimate. It seems straightforward to implement the extraction 
>> function. Then it needs to be called by the f-tools internally and be tested 
>> with a few examples. If unit tests are required (as mentioned by 
>> Alessandro), this seems to be the most time consuming task to me.
> Unit Tests for processing are on my todo list anyway (I think as a psc member 
> you should have voted for that ;) )
> 
> Matthias
> 
> Regards,
> Marco
> 
> On 24.11.2015 10:42, Matthias Kuhn wrote: Hi Marco
> 
> Good to have your feedback, you probably know the problem best.
> 
> On 11/24/2015 09:28 AM, Marco Hugentobler wrote: 
> Hi
> 
>> ad issue 1: update fTools to warn users when some features cause problems
>> ad issue 2: quick fix fTools to convert geometry collections to single 
>> geometry types
> 
> A function that takes a geometry type and extracts the longest line / the 
> largest polygon / the first point from the geometry collection should be 
> straightforward to do. 
> Is there no requirement for multi types?
> Based on what indicator should be chosen what to extract? Try polygons first, 
> if there are none try lines, if there are none take points?
> 
>> These fixes/updates would be made available as fTools updates via the plugin 
>> installer asap
> 
> If the fix does not take too long, we probably don't need a warning at all. 
> How much effort (in time) do you think is required to implement this fix?
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
> 
> Regards,
> Marco
> 
> On 23.11.2015 21:35, Anita Graser wrote: 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> If you are following the psc list, you've probably seen the thread discussing 
> current shortcomings of ftools 
> (http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-psc/2015-November/003623.html) 
> 
> In short, the key issues are: 
> 1. When ftools encounter issues with certain features, warning messages get 
> written to the log but this is largely hidden from users since they would 
> actively have to actively monitor the log. The problematic features are then 
> missing from the results but this is not always obvious.  
> 2. The above issue is more common now (since 2.10) since underlying libraries 
> more often (and correctly so) produce geometry collections as outputs. These 
> geometry collections are not handled well by the current ftools code which is 
> much older. 
> 
> To address these issues, the following suggestions have been made so far: 
> ad issue 1: update fTools to warn users when some features cause problems
> ad issue 2: quick fix fTools to convert geometry collections to single 
> geometry types 
> 
> For the warnings, there's already a first PR draft 
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/2432 which needs to be fleshed out.  
> 
> These fixes/updates would be made available as fTools updates via the plugin 
> installer asap.  
> 
> If you have ideas how to handle this efficiently or have already implemented 
> code that addresses similar issues, let us know.  
> 
> It would be good to have a quick discussion in order to be able to provide 
> improvements fast. 
> 
> Best wishes, 
> Anita 
> 
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