Hi

I am glad we have so many bunny huggers in our community. The weird thing about 
in-person meetings is how it dedicates and focusses people’s time and attention 
which I could never replicate as a remote participant in these kind of event. 
Maybe my donkey needs feeding or my wife wants me to stop ignoring her if I am 
sitting at home staring at the screen. If I am there in person, suddenly the 
donkey gets fed by someone else and my wife seems to not mind that I am 
ignoring her for a few days. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/5KgUXSD1QX5om7TSA 
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/5KgUXSD1QX5om7TSA> <- donkey looking pleased I am 
not at a hack fest

Something more efficient would be to condense our twice yearly get togethers 
into once a year, longer meeting. We would in a single swoop half the 
environmental travel cost from our project and maybe still benefit from that 
oh-so-important face to face time.

And combining it with the user conference would mean that we can have a two 
tribes event, with a nice mingling of users and contributors.

I am so glad we are discussing this…

Regards

Tim

> On 16 Jan 2020, at 11:44, Raymond Nijssen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Paolo,
> 
> Good point! Or many good points actually.
> 
> For both the environment and inclusiveness we could think about having a more 
> decentralized approach for the contributor meetings. Since most developers 
> are living in Europe, meetings are in Europe, which attracts more European 
> developers etc. That loop needs a *break*. And of course the pollution of 
> traveling is there, especially from attendees living far away.
> 
> So I was thinking of a 3-day 24/7 hackfest. From several, somehow digitally 
> interconnected, places.
> 
> Would miss all the hugging though! :'(
> 
> Cheers,
> Raymond
> 
> 
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> On 16-01-2020 12:21, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> following the interesting proposal by Andreas, I'm here starting a
>> discussion about QGIS.ORG environmental policy:
>> * do we need an explicit environmental policy?
>> * probably our greatest impact is travel for Developers Meetings
>>   * do we need in person general meetings, or we can promote more
>> extensive and structured use of remote connections?
>>   * if we need it, do we need two meetings per year?
>>   * do we want to plan our meetings in an optimal location, to minimize
>> total travel?
>>   * do we want a combination between the two: smaller local meetings
>> that reduce travel, coordinated across the globe?
>>   * do we want to suggest|gently push|require participants to use low
>> impact transportation?
>>   * do we want a cap on cost and time difference between transportation
>> method? e.g. train is to be used when cost or duration are no more than
>> x times flight cost or duration
>> * do we want to engage in proactive environmental actions? e.g. donating
>> to the environmental agencies|NGOs|etc. specific tools to evaluate and
>> reduce impact? e.g. a QGIS ad hoc grant with a specific budget for it
>> * do we want additional actions? e.g. low impact (vegan) diet on Dev
>> Meetings?
>> I tried to collect options and ideas, please do not take these as my
>> personal preferences.
>> Given the wide interest and impact of this theme, I encourage an open
>> and friendly discussion involving also non PSC members. Please be gentle.
>> Following this I'll call for a vote on specific items.
>> Cheers.
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