Hi all, re the "QGIS packaging work, incl. OSGeo4W, Ubuntu/Debian and Mac builds" item - I am listed as community manager, but MacOS builds are not under openGIS/Denis. Maybe you change it in the docs?
Thanks, Peter On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 4:09 PM Andreas Neumann via QGIS-Developer < qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > Hi Vincent, > > Thank you for joining the discussion. > > We did not really discuss the hourly rates at the budget meeting. From > 2021 to 2022 we raised the hourly dev rates from 100 to 110 - and the > hourly documentation rates from 40 to 44. I know that both rates are low. > We can discuss raising them again. > > The plan for the two positions was not to have direct employees of > QGIS.ORG, but to use a proxy company, in our case Kartoza, to act as the > employer. Also - our budget does not allow regular European or > North-American salaries. With these limitations at hand, we can use Kartoza > as a proxy to hire employees in certain parts of the world where the > salaries we can offer can be attractive - and where they have talented > people to work on some of our issues (sysadmin, documentation, etc.) > > For the documentation part: Tim and Harrissou are involved in the > selection process of the candidates. > > I agree that the grant budget with 10k is not very attractive. We also > discussed skipping it for one year. Not sure what is better ... > > BTW: you can all help to find new sustaining members ... that would > increase our budget and would allow us to pay better hourly rates ... > > I wish we had a larger budget at hand than the +/- 200k € we seem to be > able to attract each year. From certain countries where we know we have a > lot of QGIS users (France, Italy - just to name two of them) there are not > a lot of sustaining members or donations other than from a few private > persons and very small companies. Maybe companies like yours could help us > to get in touch with the larger companies with a lot of QGIS users that > could become new sustaining members ... Do you think that would be possible? > > Andreas > > On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 15:05, Vincent Picavet (ml) via QGIS-Developer < > qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Thanks for sharing the budget with the community. >> >> A few questions / remarks : >> - in most countries, we can see a general inflation, having consequences >> on every kind of costs ( hosting, salaries…). Did you take this context >> into account when preparing the budget, especially when basing planned 2023 >> costs on actual 2022 costs ? >> - the cut on Grant budget is really hard. With a "reasonable" mean budget >> of 5K per grant, this would mean 2 grants only this year. It sounds more or >> less like the end of the grant program. Who would candidate if chances to >> be selected are really low ? Wouldn't there be a way to mitigate it a bit, >> through various smaller budget reductions to other budget lines ? The >> increase in documentation contribution is huge compared to the grant >> decrease. I fear that we loose grants as a mean to attract new core >> developers. >> >> My most important remark is about "allow for a regular small salary .. >> for one person on each item". Disclaimer : I am quite strongly against >> QGIS.org having employees. If we are in the process of having "regular >> workers" for qgis.org, then we really have to work hard on : >> - having a clear, written and transparent process for how to select these >> people >> - .. process including a fair way for anyone to candidate >> I may have missed some communications, but I have not seen this in place >> up to now. This is definitely something we have to put in place before >> having some internal troubles. >> >> Best regards, >> Vincent >> >> On 24/11/2022 12:07, Marco Bernasocchi wrote: >> > Hi all, we prepared the QGIS budget for 2023 and would like to have >> > feedback before submitting it to the voting members for approval. You >> > can directly leave comments in the file [1]. >> > >> > Please let us have any Feedback until December 4th. On december 7th >> > we'll send the budget for vote. >> > >> > Cheers Marco >> > >> > [1] >> > >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WyoZCKOehNhU5YB4pFPOuiJbie1mUmMPiq8YW7qyez0/edit?usp=sharing >> > < >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WyoZCKOehNhU5YB4pFPOuiJbie1mUmMPiq8YW7qyez0/edit?usp=sharing >> > >> > >> > -- Marco Bernasocchi >> > >> > QGIS.org Chair OPENGIS.ch CEO http://berna.io <http://berna.io> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ Qgis-psc mailing >> > list qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org >> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> QGIS-Developer mailing list >> QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org >> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >> > > > -- > > -- > Andreas Neumann > QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer) > _______________________________________________ > QGIS-Developer mailing list > QGIS-Developer@lists.osgeo.org > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer >
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