Thank you!
I am also in Den Bosch and so I would love to join the discussion there,
hopefully with valuable contributions and solutions :))
Cheers, Hannes
Am 21.03.23 um 09:48 schrieb DelazJ via QGIS-Developer:
Hi,
Thanks all for the feedback
I second the (somewhat reformulated by myself) opinion that we
shouldn't just buy space or disk because we would be financially able
to do so. Not sure it is a sustainable behavior and we'd just be
postponing the issue (remember, pyqgis repo is also concerned). We
rather should identify what we do really want/need to provide to our
community. So I'm glad you'll discuss this at Den Bosch./(and I keep
updating my list of todo for the sys admin)/
I also second the suggestion to delete 2.8 and 2.14. It'd release
enough space to serve 3.28.
About the questions:
Hannes, the folders are so big because they serve (in about 15 to 20
languages):
- the HTML files (the ones we all know)
- the PDF files (e.g. https://docs.qgis.org/3.22/pdf/)
- and the zipped HTML files (https://docs.qgis.org/3.22/zip/) for
local use for people that do not have full access to WEB but not sure
if anyone is using them. It could be interesting to know stats of
downloads (if any).
About why 3.10 is bigger than 3.22, it had two languages we no longer
publish, and looks like we managed somehow to provide smaller files
(plugins and third-party providers chapters that were removed on the
road? 🤔)
Bernd, sorry for the old docs popping up during search. Unfortunately,
not something new [0], and we still are looking for people with
knowledge in this area to help us improve the situation. What I
usually do is to replace the version number in the URL and most of the
times, it work well unless the file has been restructured.
The line that shows the top message is at [1]. If someone knows how we
can add the section anchor to that URL, suggestions are more than welcome.
[0] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/6449 and there
might be older discussion in ML
[1]
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/blob/master/themes/rtd_qgis/layout.html#L14
Greetings,
Harrissou
Le lun. 20 mars 2023 à  21:51, Andreas Neumann via QGIS-PSC
<qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org> a écrit :
Hi,
Thank you for checking, Richard - yes an additional 35 € per month
for just 80gb more is not nothing ... compared to a root server.
Ok - let's delete the 2.8 and 2.14 releases. I think it would be
good to keep the latest 2.x (2.18) around. This should give us
some initial room to serve the current documentation. If we need
additional space. we could also remove the 3.10 documentation.
And yes, it is a good idea to discuss infrastructure tasks and
responsibilities in Den Bosch!
I hope that Kartoza can soon find a good sysadmin person - now
that the idea to employ a Sysadmin and the funds had been approved.
Andreas
On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 21:39, Richard Duivenvoorde
<rdmaili...@duif.net> wrote:
On 3/20/23 17:31, Andreas Neumann wrote:
> Hi Matthias,
>
> Sure - buying more space is an option. I would like to get
an idea - however - what the monthly expected costs are. Is
this a "virtual" server at Hetzner? How much disk space does
it have currently, how much do we want? What is the price
difference?
Building is done on a real Hetzner server: qgis6.org
<http://qgis6.org> a Hetzner EX42 Root server about 50euro/month
Serving the site + docs is done on www2.qgis.org
<http://www2.qgis.org> a Hetzner Cloud cpx31Â 160GB disk
14euro/ month (as cloud would be cheaper etc etc)
We can upgrade the www2 to a newer bigger CLOUD server, but
that is about 35 euro/month for just 80Gb more..
Probably then it is better to leave the cloud, and just add an
extra root server on which you have a couple of terrabytes...
for 50 euro/month
Can we sit together in Den Bosch and do decide something on
this? I really feel unhappy if people telling us "why is there
even a need to care": we/I am not a sysadmin, so everybody
with great knowledge and idea's: please help out!
> At some point - cleanup of old stuff just makes sense.
Getting rid of version 2.14 and 3.8 (it probable should mean
3.8 and not 2.8 - right) would make sense. Documentation
always focuses on LTR versions, so all the "in-between"
versions that are older than 3-4 years could be deleted.
>>Â Â Â Â Â # du -hs *
>>Â Â Â Â Â 255MÂ Â doc-test
>>Â Â Â Â Â 579MÂ Â QGIS-Documentation
>>Â Â Â Â Â 7.2GÂ Â QGIS-Documentation-2.14
>>Â Â Â Â Â 6.3GÂ Â QGIS-Documentation-2.18
>>Â Â Â Â Â 7.7GÂ Â QGIS-Documentation-2.8
>>Â Â Â Â Â 12GÂ Â Â QGIS-Documentation-3.10
>>Â Â Â Â Â 11GÂ Â Â QGIS-Documentation-3.16
>>Â Â Â Â Â 9.4GÂ Â QGIS-Documentation-3.22
>>Â Â Â Â Â 579MÂ Â QGIS-Documentation-3.28
>>Â Â Â Â Â 8.0GÂ Â QGIS-Documentation-3.4
>>Â Â Â Â Â 31GÂ Â Â QGIS-tests
>>Â Â Â Â Â 16GÂ Â Â QGIS-Website
We still have version 2 (TWO) .8 .14 and .18 around :-) so it
NOT a typo...
So: can I delete those?
And also 3.10 (as this is a 2018 release)
The QGIS-tests dir, contains the info available at:
http://test.qgis.org
BUT!!! that url/dns actually still points to the old server
(qgis2)
That site hosts the ogcapif / wfs / wms tests (untill 26th of
januari)???
Anybody feeling need or responsible for this?
We are not serving (yet) test.qgis.org <http://test.qgis.org>
from www2 ...
Regards,
Richard
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