Hi All, thanks a lot for all the feedback. we're discussing this in the PSC and will get right ASAP.
Cheers Marco On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 at 15:55, Julien Cabieces via QGIS-PSC < qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > Regarding the current situation, I would also be in favor of postponing > the QGIS 4.0 release. > > Regards, > Julien > > > > > On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 at 19:35, Mathieu Pellerin via QGIS-PSC > > <qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > >> > >> With regards to the timeline question raised by Marco in this > >> thread, I'd like to add a +1 to the idea of postponing QGIS 4.0. At > >> the very least, I think we should make a conscious decision about it > >> sooner than later :) > > > > I'm also +1 to deferring QGIS 4.0 for one release cycle. (ie skip > > October's release, and release 4.0 in February). > > > > The CI port to Qt 6 is basically ready now (at > > https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/62809). However -- there's still a > > handful of tests which pass under Qt 5 which are skipped on the Qt 6 > > builds right now, and this makes me nervous. If we merged #62809 today > > and moved exclusively to Qt 6 then we'll lose some test coverage. I'd > > prefer to hold off merging #62809 until we can get these remaining > > tests passing on the ubuntu qt6 builds. > > > > Hopefully that's just a matter of days, not weeks! > > > > Nyall > > > > > > > > > >> > >> While we should all be very proud of the regular release interval > discipline we've shown in recent years, I think several factors warrant at > least seriously considering delaying QGIS 4.0. > >> > >> Like Matthias, I believe the fact that a Qt6-based development > >> environment not adding a *considerable* amount of time spent > >> building not having been unlocked yet means most of our developers > >> are still on Qt5. On my end, I did try to switch to a Qt6-only > >> development environment during the last freeze period, only to find > >> myself going back to Qt5 to retain an acceptable build wait > >> time. While we have had Qt6-based CI testing going on for a while > >> and being improved week after week, I would feel really insecure > >> shipping QGIS 4.0 with Qt6 libraries when most devs have not spent a > >> fair amount of time running Qt6 builds (both as part of their > >> development as well as mapping production environments). We're also > >> a few weeks away from bug fixing, and we risk entering it with > >> developers still fixing bugs against Qt5 libraries (because it's > >> that much more efficient). > >> > >> On top of what has been raised above, something less crucial but > >> that is still worth factoring in: we had a couple of interesting > >> changes we wanted to push into QGIS 4.0 which at the moment are > >> increasingly at risk of not making it into an October release > >> date. For example, at this moment in time, I'm certain the icons set > >> revamp proposition can't be achieved in time. It'd be good to hear > >> the status of other important changes like the welcome screen > >> revamp. > >> > >> Beyond that, thanks for the status updates and ongoing efforts to all > involved! Keen to hear what others have to say about this. > >> > >> Mathieu > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 10:30 PM Matthias Kuhn via QGIS-PSC < > qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Nice to see the progress on the ci front, thanks Nyall. > >>> The Qt6 packages for Windows and macOS are also ready to be tested as > well (thanks Jürgen). > >>> > >>> I suspect many developers do most of their work with Qt5 (because it's > more efficient looking at the build times) and therefore most testing by > core developers and technical people is done on Qt5 builds. > >>> One thing that could help is to change the default to BUILD_WITH_QT6 > as soon as possible and collect some low hanging fruits. > >>> > >>> With the feature freeze less than 3 weeks in front of us and the > >>> release in about two months, I think it's a good point to check if > >>> we are on track with the timeline or if we want to consider an > >>> adjustment as pointed out by Marco earlier in this thread. > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> Matthias > >>> > >>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 9:11 AM Alessandro Pasotti via QGIS-PSC < > qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I am currently on vacation but I will have a look next week. > >>>> > >>>> Kind regards > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Alessandro Pasotti > >>>> QCooperative: www.qcooperative.net > >>>> ItOpen: www.itopen.it > >>>> > >>>> Il gio 21 ago 2025, 11:22 Marco Bernasocchi via QGIS-PSC < > qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org> ha scritto: > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks Nyall for the work and answer. > >>>>> on the other two points, > >>>>> > >>>>> - having some solution for the extremely slow sip build times on qt6 > >>>>> > >>>>> Martin, do you have an ETA for David's grant > https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Enhancement-Proposals/pull/338 > >>>>> > >>>>> - porting the ogc server ci to qt6 > >>>>> Alessandro, would that be something you'd be willing/would have time > ressources to take over since you worked a lot on the server in the past? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> it would be great if we can move all this forward so we can come > closer to a qgis 4.0. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'd also would like to re ask if we should start preparing for a > 1(x?) month delay for the freeze? And remember that there are funding > available. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers > >>>>> > >>>>> Marco > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 at 05:22, Nyall Dawson <nyall.daw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 at 04:11, Marco Bernasocchi <ma...@qgis.org> > wrote: > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Hi all, > >>>>>> > I was just pointed to this mail > >>>>>> > > https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2025-July/067716.html > >>>>>> > and noticed that Nyall mentions some still needed work. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > @Nyall, do you think the freeze in 5 weeks is realistic? Do we > need to plan/prepare something different? > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Please, all developer involved in moving to Qt6, that the psc > still has reserved funding for this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - porting the Ubuntu ci infrastructure to qt6, including the > database > >>>>>> server based tests > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm currently working on this -- see > https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/62809 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Nyall > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Cheers Marco > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > -- > >>>>>> > Marco Bernasocchi > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > QGIS.org Chair > >>>>>> > OSGEO.org VP Europe > >>>>>> > OPENGIS.ch CEO > >>>>>> > http://berna.io > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Marco Bernasocchi > >>>>> > >>>>> QGIS.org Chair > >>>>> OSGEO.org VP Europe > >>>>> OPENGIS.ch CEO > >>>>> http://berna.io > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> QGIS-PSC mailing list > >>>>> qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org > >>>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> QGIS-PSC mailing list > >>>> qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org > >>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> QGIS-PSC mailing list > >>> qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org > >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> QGIS-PSC mailing list > >> qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org > >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc > > _______________________________________________ > > QGIS-PSC mailing list > > qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org > > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc > > -- > > Julien Cabieces > Senior Developer at Oslandia > julien.cabie...@oslandia.com > _______________________________________________ > QGIS-PSC mailing list > qgis-...@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-psc > -- Marco Bernasocchi QGIS.org Chair OSGEO.org VP Europe OPENGIS.ch CEO http://berna.io
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