Tim,
Of course we are grateful to the work of developers
and understand that the final priority must include
a weight related to the involvement of the task. But
I also think that sometimes a problem may be seen
just as a minor issue for a developer, but could actually
be an important problem for users, in particular newcomers.
For example, for someone who wants to use QGIS as a GUI for grass,
feeling comfortable with the terminal is important.
The fact that me and Nikos see the current behaviour of the grass
terminal in QGIS as a bug but Alex sees it as a lacking feature, made
me suggest that both points of view have to be considered
for the final priority. I also agree with Nikos
in that, at least for users, it's good to discuss a problem in
the list prior to fill a ticket or a feature request. Otherwise
we could add lots of unnecessary tickets just because
of our (at least my) ignorance. And your point of
making sure that the person filling a ticket actually gets
subscribed to it is, I agree, critical: filling a ticket implies
the commitment of following it.
Thanks again to all who make the QGIS magic work.
Agus
Tim Sutton wrote:
Hi
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 11:59 +0100, Agustin Lobo wrote:
Nikos,
I think that this is again a consequence of the different point of
view of developers and users: from a user point of view, this is
clearly a bug, it's something that does not work as expected.
My view on filing bugs is that in general its better to file a bug if
you are uncertain as to whetherr it merits a bug report or not with the
following understanding:
- just because a bug is filed doesnt always mean we can or will fix it.
Sometimes people ask for things that will require many man hours to to
and offer little reward to work ratio benifit when compared to the other
issues int he queue. Also some things are simply not fixable due to
whatever technical reason.
- sometimes we dont fix a bug because the users vision of how QGIS
should behave doesnt match ours. Hey we are all humans it can happen...
- always check that your bug has not already been filed by someone else
since dealing with duplicate tickets causes a lot of time wasting.
- always provide contact details and make sure you are subscribed to the
ticket entry (either by adding yourself to CC field or by logging in
before filing the ticket).
- dont be offended if we dont see tickets as having the same priority as
you do. While we appreciate its inconvenient if some issue prevents you
doing your work, we need to take the big picture view of things and
focus on things that affect the largest proportion of our user base.
Regards
Tim
The "solution" I'm using is just opening an xterm with xterm &
and can work
from the new terminal with no problem. But this is just a temporary
solution. May be we should at least document the problem and
the workaround, the current situation causes lots of frustration
to newcomers.
Agus
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:15:29 -0800
From: Alex Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [QGIS-user] Using GRASS' shell from within QGIS
To: qgis-user <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Nikos Alexandris wrote:
Hi all! Apologies for cross-posting.
I don't know how frequently you use GRASS' shell from within QGIS. I
like it but typing, deleting (with backspace) or using
"arrow-keys" (left & right), "home" or "end" doesn't work as expected.
Is it only my installation or is it a known "bug"?
As an extra, I would like to change the font. I don't need it so big and
(why is it by deafult...) italics?
Kind regards, Nikos
I don't think it's a bug, I think it's a lack of features possibly due
to a lack of features in QT.
I'll let the developers weigh in on it but suggest you file a feature
request on trac.osgeo.org/qgis
Alex
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08028 Barcelona
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