This is beyond my knowledge on how these shortcuts can be set in the build environment, but it sounds like there needs to be a system check at compile time and different keyboard shortcuts should be set based on the OS. I think someone said this was not possible. Is that correct?

John

On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:48 AM, Milena Nowotarska wrote:

Hi All,

Installed Daphnis from osgeo4w... what my eyes can see... no more
one-finger-shortcuts? I liked them :)
I think most users did. Unfortunatelly the new ones doesn't go well on
windows...

2009/8/18 John C. Tull <[email protected]>:
On Aug 18, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Borys Jurgiel wrote:

Dnia wtorek, 18 sierpnia 2009 o 17:34:24 napisałeś:

Perhaps an option to turn off control key modifiers. A lack of
modifier is non-conventional to most people and it breaks OS X. As a
choice, that seems reasonable.

Turning off modifiers would be hard to implement while the shortcuts are configurable... Rather something like the mentioned profiles - it sounds
best
for me.

I know it's non-conventional for many people, but it's also inconvenient
for
many others. Personally I can't imagine myself using two fingers for

It is not two fingers, Borys, it is already three! Ctrl+Shift +something

As a windows user I need to remind you (developers) that combination
Ctrl+Shift is a little bit dangerous cause it changes the keyboard
settings (at least in Poland), so instead of "x" users will get "z"
and might go dizzy. It is all because of diacritics, I must admit. Our
fault. But we really need them :)

adding a
layer or doing other common tasks;) The same with other 'one-finger'
applications, as kmail, where I'm writing from. I understand Mac users are irritated having to adjust the shortcuts to run Grass console, but now
many
(maybe more) other users, as me, will have do the same in order to get an
convenient environment :)

I believe we should either implement shortcuts profiles or at least ask
users
for a voting (both are infeasible before the release). The main problem is that if we drop the one-finger shortcuts and update the documentation now, reverting this change in the future will look strange ;) So for me doing
it
just before the release is not a good idea...

Anyone else is interested? :)

B.

I would just say that having a default setup that breaks functionality for a key component of qgis (grass interaction) on one of the supported OS's is a bad idea. Better to let people change the shortcuts to their preference
while providing all functionality to all users.

I use Mac too, but still adjusting QGIS to one platform shouldn't make
inconvenience to users of other platform.

Before we think of other shortcut combination, having in mind short
release of Daphnis and documentation issues, I would opt for reverting
short shortcuts for now.

Best,
Milena

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