I had a look at them when I was trying to work out why some imported text 
wasn't correctly reporting its CRS. They look like pretty strange to me, but 
since I could open the project on a linux and win7 in different computers with 
identical results I was happy at that.

It's unlikely I'll get near MI or Arc for quite some time, but I'll be curious 
what you see.

-ramon.


On 23/03/2011, at 23:38 , Brett Adams wrote:

> Ramon, 
> I loaded the gsb files as you suggested. The grids now load into the correct 
> position (correct enough for me anyway). Thats a great achievement right 
> there.
> 
> The exported projection files (prj) look a bit odd. The segment 
> DATUM["D_unknown" makes me a little nervous, however as I don't really know 
> what I'm looking at, its hard to judge.  I'll need to see if they are 
> recognised by Mapinfo or Arc. 
> 
> 
> Brett.
> 
> 
> 
> On 23/03/2011 12:58 PM, custard wrote:
>> Brett, 
>> 
>> If you grab this zip file:
>> http://members.westnet.com.au/ramon_et_al/BrettTest.zip
>> 
>> In this zip file is your csv, a bundle of derived shape files, a 1.7 QGIS 
>> project (which will probably make 1.6 crash - but the shape files are good) 
>> and a folder with a few images.
>> 
>> The images are from the project, with projection set to MGA94 zone 51, but I 
>> have switched between GDA94, ADG66/84, WGS84 and the equivilent zone 51s, 
>> with OTF on.
>> 
>> The images show the points with OTF on and off, and zoomed in.
>> 
>> Are these close enough for your purposes?
>> 
>> The folder I gave for standalone should be right, but this method (for 
>> reasons I don't understand) doesn't seem to work on 1.6 standalone under 
>> WinXP. (I'm hoping it's a 1.6 thing, and not an osgeos/standalone thing)
>> 
>> -ramon.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brett Adams" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected], "Ramon Andinach" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 March, 2011 8:20:43 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / 
>> Hong Kong / Urumqi
>> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user]  Projection of Shapefile export
>> 
>> Ramon,
>> Attached CSV contains grid coordinates in 4 different projections; AGD66, 
>> AGD84, GDA94 and WGS84. All zone 51 and 51S
>> 
>> The conversions were calculated using Mapinfo. Conversions can vary up to 
>> 1-2m depending on the parameters used so don't be too surprised if you can't 
>> replicate these exactly. 
>> 
>> These are the same points attached to Bug Ticket 3099.
>> 
>> Brett
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 22/03/2011 6:37 PM, Ramon Andinach wrote:
>> On 21/03/2011, at 19:51 , Ramon Andinach wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 21/03/2011, at 10:21 , Brett Adams wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I thought this problem merely related to the failure of Australian 
>> projections. Projection data doesn't exist, therefore can't be exported with 
>> the shape file.
>> 
>> If the points are imported as WGS84 / UTMz51S, then export the shape file, 
>> the projection file contains the relevant information. Its all good.
>> 
>> So if the projection issue is fixed, shape files will then export with the 
>> required projection information.
>> 
>> 
>> As far as I can see, there is no bug here. If anyone can show otherwise, we 
>> need to record the bug and create a ticket (if it doesn't exist already)
>> 
>> The little bit of information I had before, I just tacked on to the end of 
>> your existing ticket.
>> 
>> I was going to put a bit of my spare time during this week into trying to 
>> replicate Roland's solution firstly on my home linux machine and then see if 
>> I could make that approach work on windows at work.
>> 
>> >From my recollection last time I was trying Ken's solution and a few others 
>> >like just defining a CRS and couldn't quite get there.
>> 
>> Let you know what eventuates.
>> 
>> Short version:
>> I'm fairly sure that QGIS 1.7 is approximately 2 (fairly large) files away 
>> from being able to handle AGD points.
>> 
>> The files are here: 
>> 
>> http://www.icsm.gov.au/icsm/gda/gdatm/national66.zip
>> 
>> and here:
>> 
>> http://www.icsm.gov.au/icsm/gda/gdatm/national84.zip
>> 
>> 
>> and these equate to the missing datum shift files.
>> 
>> In 1.7 as at this afternoon, you need to download them, unzip them rename 
>> them to agd66.gsb or agd84.gsb and copy them to:
>> /usr/share/proj  - for linux users
>> C:/OSGeo4W/share/proj - for OSGeo windows installs
>> 
>> and that means it should be something like
>> C:/Program Files/Quantum version/share/proj
>> for standalone versions (sorry forgot to check before going home - will 
>> check in the morning).
>> 
>> Paolo, I know string freeze is tomorrow, but is there any chance that these 
>> two files could be included in 1.7? 
>> They should be under a CC by Atrrib (Australian variant). 
>> (I can ring up GA tomorrow and confirm if needed. Do any of the Australians 
>> on the list know who might be the right person to ask? Just to save me 
>> stumbling around in the dark a bit.)
>> 
>> Brett, I also had a problem with QGIS remembering CRS but I'll put that in a 
>> different thread. If you had any test files that you wanted me to check, I'd 
>> be happy to do so.
>> 
>> -ramon.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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