This was sent to me, presumably by mistake.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Brad Nesom
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2011 4:29 p.m.
> To: Alister Hood
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] RE: [Qgis-community-team] Problem changing a
> shapefile's coordinates
> 
> my suggestion is load each file seperately by itself. find a location
in the
> file tha tis at least close to the same point for each.note the
coordinates of
> the project.
> if all the files are in fact lat lon (4326) the values should be like
35, 98.
> or 35, -98
> if they are 100k size there is a good chance they are UTM,
> 1million probably stateplane.
> The prj file is what determines how the gis projects the shape file.
the
> coordinates don't change.
> if there is no prj file the software will probably default it to 42326
while in
> fact the values are for a completely different system.
> if you insert the unknown with a known and they line up then you know
what
> system the coords are in.
> So using the on the fly projection you can fool the system into
telling you
> what system it is in.
> 
> file a, b, c, and d
> a =4326
> b=unk
> c=utm
> 
> by adding 1 file first you will know what the prj says it is. then add
another
> to see if it lines up.
> you are trying to find the unk then you can get rid of the prj ifor
the unk
> file.
> with on the fly DISABLED 2 files with the same prj should line up (if
they
> don't they aren't the same projection) no matter what the prj says.
> use 2 known files to verify with on the fly (a,c)
> use 1 planar file with unk (zoom to extents to see scale and direction
from
> known)
> make some informed guesses and convert file d to several possibilities
> use each posssiblity by itself (this will set the crs ) then add the
unk with
> on the fly
> when you find one that lines up with unk (mystery solved) now saveas
and the
> prj will be correct
> 
> This is rather tedious but it works for identifying incorrectly
projected,
> unprojected, incorrectly identified projections.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Alister Hood
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>       Hi,
> 
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: [email protected]
>       [mailto:qgis-community-team-
>       > [email protected]] On Behalf Of giannis Nj
>       > Sent: Tuesday, 27 September 2011 10:53 p.m.
>       > To: [email protected];
[email protected]
>       > Subject: [Qgis-community-team] Problem changing a shapefile's
>       coordinates
> 
>       >
>       > Hello,
>       >
>       > I have a .tiff file and a .shp one, showing the same area in
the map
>       but they
>       > come in different coordinates. From the Properties of these
files I
>       give them
>       > the same projection (4326 - WGS84), same as the project
properties,
>       but still
>       > they don't match. Actually, the coordinates of the shapefile
remain
>       the same
>       > (different from the project's), something that I thought would
change
>       by
>       > changing the CRS.
> 
> 
>       Like Micha said, assigning a different CRS to a layer does not
change
>       the coordinates of features in the layer, it just tells QGIS
which CRS
>       the coordinates are in, for the sake of 'on the fly' CRS
transformation.
>       For a layer to show up in the correct place you must assign it
the
>       correct CRS (if not already assigned), and either:
>       (1) enable 'on the fly' CRS transformation, or
>       (2) save copy of the layer, transformed into the same CRS as the
>       project, as the other guys have described, and use that copy.
> 
>       (1) is fine if you only need to display the layer.  If you need
to do
>       some sort of spatial analysis using layers in different CRSs you
>       normally need to do (2), because many tools in QGIS require
layers to be
>       in the same CRS.
> 
> 
>       > I guess it's not that simple to change the coordinates in a
>       > file, so i would like to ask how it is possible to manage this
so that
>       the two
>       > files will come in the same coordinates. Is something in the
settings
>       that i
>       > forget to do? Is this able in QGIS or i have to try on another
GIS
>       program?
>       >
>       > Thank you.
> 
> 
>       Regards,
>       Alister
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