Yes, I have sent quite a few crash reports, but would like to build QGIS with 
debugging to hopefully get more useful info for dev.'s or others better at 
understanding how I am stuffing things up. 

I am hopeful that I may have pin-pointed more consistently QGIS crashing. 

They Mac model I was using is iMac8,1 The other iMac I have been using is an 
iMac7,1

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On 2011-10-29, at 4:51 PM, William Kyngesburye <[email protected]> wrote:

> I couldn't get QGIS to crash like this, on either Snow Leopard or Lion.
> 
> Maybe a crash report will help.
> 
> On Oct 29, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Mars Sjoden wrote:
> 
>> Some curious findings just now after reviewing several hours of Screen 
>> recordings of using QGIS on various operating system platforms (eyes... 
>> bleeding)...
>> 
>> What I noticed...
>> 
>> 1. Double click layer to Launch Properties Window
>> 2. (do nothing or make changes) Simply single click APPLY/OK and QGIS crashes
>> 
>> VS
>> 
>> 1. RIGHT CLICK  layer,
>> 2. Select Properties from contextual menu to launch Properties Window
>> 4. Do what ever you like then click APPLY/OK...
>> 5. no problem
>> 
>> I repeated this test about 10 times on OS X.6.8 cleaned caches and new 
>> .plist file and the new QGIS 1.7.1-2 from William Kyng's site, with these 
>> exact same outcomes as above.
>> 
>> However, after about the 10th relaunch of QGIS 1.7.1-2 after crashing it,  I 
>> was unable to reproduce (no crashes) after about 30+ properties toggles and 
>> 10+ different QGIS relaunches.
>> 
>> Now (to add another variable). After I completed
>> 
>> 1. launch QGIS
>> 2. Load Natural Earth shp layer
>> 3. Double Click Natural Earth shp layer to Launch Properties Window
>> 4. (do nothing) Simply single click APPLY/OK and QGIS
>> 5. OK
>> 6. Scroll mouse zoom map canvas
>> 7. Double Click Natural Earth shp layer to Launch Properties Window
>> 8. (do nothing) Simply single click APPLY/OK and QGIS crashes
>> 
>> and returns back to
>> 
>> 1. launch QGIS
>> 2. Load Natural Earth shp layer
>> 3. Double Click Natural Earth shp layer to Launch Properties Window
>> 4. (do nothing) Simply single click APPLY/OK and QGIS crashes
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> Soooo far I am unable to crash QGIS IF I invoke the Properties Window via 
>> Right Mouse click on Layer.
>> 
>>   could this be the key to my issues?  I hope so... will ONLY use right 
>> click layer to invoke properties window from now on to test.
>> 
>> mars
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Mars Sjoden <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yah, I am wondering if there is a certain hardware configuration on my 
>> machines that is not agreeing with Qt cocoa.
>> 
>> Apple hardware tested:
>> 
>> 3x iMac 3.06ghz core2duo, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS
>> 1x iMac 2.00ghz core2dou, ATI radeon hd2400
>> 1x macbookpro 2ghz, core dou, ati radeon???
>> 
>> recent testing on:10.6 vanilla
>> 
>> QGIS 1.7 to 1.7.1-2 (and 1.8)  - including William Kyng's required frameworks
>> 
>> opening Properties dialogue windo and selecting OK or APPLY (either after 
>> making changes or making no changes) will at some point seemingly randomly 
>> crash QGIS 
>> 
>> With the latest 10.6.8 update (or perhaps 1.7.1 not sure which came first) I 
>> have one iMac 3ghz machine that will kill QGIS everytime I open a properties 
>> window and click OK or APPLY without making any changes.
>> 
>> Just curious if there is some sort of hardware issue since I have flat out 
>> re-installed 10.6 on many of my machines with the only extra software 
>> installed including QGIS and the frameworks and still have the same issue.
>> 
>> Of note,
>> 
>> I have tested the latest operating systems from 
>> OSGeo (ubuntu 11?)
>> Fedora 15
>> Mint 11, Katya
>> Debian 6 Squeeze
>> OpenSUSE 11
>> and Windows 7
>> both on separate partition tables without a virtual machine and in Virtual 
>> Box, Parallels 7 and VMWare 4.
>> 
>> I still have instability issues, although found OpenSUSE 11 and Windows 7 to 
>> be the most stable so far allowing for up to an hours worth of work before a 
>> crash.
>> 
>> The crashes in OpenSUSE 11 seem to be related to the properties dialogue 
>> window OK/APPLY (that is when the crashes occur), while on Windows 7 it is 
>> more random through out the use of QGIS.
>> 
>> Datasets I have been testing with have been from the openly available 
>> Natural Earth shapefile datasets as you suggested William.
>> 
>> Mars
>> 
>> What sort of problems are you having?  I don't think there is anything 
>> specific to a system version, it's more connected with what Qt version and 
>> type (carbon vs. cocoa).  Newer systems need Qt cocoa, definitely Lion does.
>> 
>> There are a few known issues, with bug reports and mentioned in my 
>> distribution readme (font selection, non-ascii chars in GRASS shell, max # 
>> open files).  A couple other recent issues I can think of: odd georeferencer 
>> window behavior, minimized globe plugin panel appears on top of upper-left 
>> corner toolbar.
>> 
>> Much of this probably has something to do with Qt cocoa.
>> 
>> -----
>> William Kyngesburye <kyngchaos*at*kyngchaos*dot*com>
>> http://www.kyngchaos.com/
>> 
>> "Oh, look, I seem to have fallen down a deep, dark hole.  Now what does that 
>> remind me of?  Ah, yes - life."
>> 
>> - Marvin
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
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> 
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