On 12/16/2011 05:00 PM, Ramon AndiƱach wrote:
> 
> On 17/12/2011, at 01:44 , Robert Peck wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>  
>> Uncle!  I need help.
>>  
>> I have been trying to learn QuantumGIS so that I can put GPS (NAD 83 datum) 
>> locations of rock outcrops on a USGS quadrangle topographic map (NAD 27 
>> datum), connect the points to make contours, and produce a geological map of 
>> the quadrangle.  I know how to make an Excel file into a .csv file which I 
>> can use to import the data to the project.  I have learned how to open a new 
>> project, load a topo quad map, load a data set, and make either one of them 
>> visible on the map panel, and that's as far as I get.  I'm trying to get the 
>> data points to appear on the map but am having no success.  Below are the 
>> steps I've taken to get that far.
>>  
>> Any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong or what I'm not doing right?  Any 
>> assistance will be gratefully appreciated.  Thank you, Pilgrim
>>  
>> 1.  Open QGIS.
>> 2.  File  >>  New Project.
>> 3.  Layer  >>  Add Raster Layer  >>  Browse  >>  
>> Hinton_UTM27z17_nocoll_grey400dpi.tiff  >>  Open.
>> 4.  The Hinton,WV USGS quadrangle map appears in the map panel.
>> 5.  Settings  >>  Project Properties.
>>             a.  Enable 'on the fly' CRS transformation.
>>             b.  Set CRS to NAD 27/UTM zone 17N (ID 2146).
>>             c.  Hit "apply" and then "OK".
>> 6.  The map disappears.
>> 7.  Right click on the Hinton quad layer in the left panel   >>  Set layer 
>> CRS  >>  Set CRS to NAD 27/UTM zone 17N  (ID 2146)  >>  hit "OK".
>> 8.  The map reappears.
>> 9.  Layer  >>  Add delimited text layer  >>  browse   >>  
>> NRGGPSHINTONAVIS.csv  >>  Open.
>> 10.  "Create a layer from a delimited text file" dialog box opens.
>> 11.  I made sure that "selected delimiters" and "comma" boxes were both 
>> checked.
>> 12.  I set X to UTME and Y to UTMN  >>  hit "OK".
>> 13.  No data points appear.
>> 14.  Right click on the data layer  >>  set layer CRS  >>  set CRS to NAD 
>> 83/UTM zone 17N (ID 2294).
>> 15.  View  >>  zoom to layer  >>  data appear but no map.
>> 16.  If I choose the map layer and go to View  >>  zoom to layer  >>  the 
>> map appears but no data.  This goes back and forth with no data points 
>> appearing on the map, even when the map layer is the bottom layer in the 
>> layer panel.
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> I have a suggestion. I'm not saying that I definitely have the answer.
> 
> The bit of information that we'll need here is how you made the csv file (or 
> maybe a look at the first few rows of the csv file).
> 
> If you copied the waypoints down manually, then that's probably the right 
> path, and I'd suggest checking your numbers.
> 
> But, if you downloaded the data from the GPS, then the data is probably not 
> in NAD 83.
> On all of the GPS units I've used, they only display points in the datum you 
> select. Really they store them in another datum, typically WGS84 (lat-long, 
> and not projected). You should be able to confirm this by looking in the csv 
> file (WGS84 would be a small number with lots of decimals, NAD would be a big 
> number with few decimals).
> 
> And a suggestion to finish with. Try and use an informative subject line 
> "Help!" doesn't give me any idea if it's something I can help with, but 
> "problem displaying GPS data" is something I might be able to help with (or 
> at least make a suggestion :) 
> 
> -ramon.
> 

Yes, I agree if you copied the data via cable from the GPS it is most
likely WGS84 Lat/Lon EPSG:4326

However, note that NAD 83 is only a datum, not a coordinate system. If
the data was written down by hand on a unit set to display UTM Zone
whatever NAD 83 then the statement in the prior email would be correct.
If the unit was set to Lat/Lan NAD 83 then it's would actually look the
same and only be off by a few meters.

So yes, verify what you actually have in your csv. If you're still
having trouble I'd be happy to convert it to a shp or gml file for you,
and make a quick tutorial video (hmm look online there might be one).

Thanks,
Alex


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