Hi, I took the liberty to remove the link to the forums from qgis.org
Hope that's ok with you. Best wishes, Anita On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Alex Mandel <[email protected]>wrote: > Doesn't nabble provide a forum like interface to the mailing lists? If > that isn't sufficient I know gmane does. > > +1 on closing/relocating the forums (as expected since I'm in the > advanced crowd that dislikes forum technology) > > ...goes to like QGIS on all the social media... > > Thanks, > Alex > > On 03/28/2012 05:30 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote: > > +1 for shutting down the forums in favour of mailing lists and > > stackexchange and potentially social media (if someone maintains that > > stuff). > > > > Andreas > > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:30:48 +0200, Anita Graser wrote: > >> Hi Bernd, > >> > >> Thanks for your thoughts and feedback. > >> > >> As a QGIS forum moderator, I've had some discussions about the forums > >> with some of the QGIS developers. As you might know, developers don't > >> frequent the forums. The feedback I got was that they prefer the > >> mailing lists and I can't blame them. Forums are a pretty outdated > >> technology in my eyes. > >> > >> I'm also on gis.stackexchange. Their technology solves a lot of the > >> issues classic forums have. You can tag questions and it's easy to > >> spot which question has been answered and what the answer is. So maybe > >> we could have a QGIS stackexchange site and close the forums? OSM has > >> a stackexchange site for example. > >> > >> We could also close the forums and tell everyone to use > >> gis.stackexchange instead. That would reduce maintenance necessary on > >> our side. It would also increase visibility of QGIS in the eyes of > >> ESRI folks if more QGIS questions pop up on stackexchange. > >> > >> Personally, I would welcome shutting down the forums since it would > >> free me of the repetitive work of deleting dozens of spam threads > >> every day. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Anita > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: > >> > >>> A.S: err ... only replied to Gary directly ... really don't know how > >>> to work with mailing lists: > >>> > >>> Hi Gary, > >>> hope my non-diplomatic style is not too embarrassing. > >>> > >>> Now, the mailing list here seems to be the place for the power users > >>> and developers, but how do i retrieve infos from that? i already > >>> store all those mails and try to do local text search in my mail > >>> client, to find answers. But here, the threads are scattered over > >>> several digests, and i can't see a way how to get a grip on that in > >>> more structured way. > >>> > >>> The forum seems to be mainly used by novice users, who get answers > >>> by a handful of advanced people. > >>> The default forum settings are set that you won't get an email > >>> notification when someone is answering, so a huge amount of threads > >>> die, because the thread-initiators and participants don't get aware > >>> that there is something going on. I already asked to change that, > >>> but to no avail so far. > >>> Then, there are only 3 really useful categories (from the users > >>> point of view): > >>> > >>> Help on using QGIS > >>> Build and Install questions > >>> Share Tips, Tricks and Ideas > >>> > >>> Here most of the communication is done in the first. > >>> It's very hard to find threads about a special problem, cause all > >>> the topics are just stuffed into one big bucket and novice users > >>> often lack the terminology to do successful full-text search to find > >>> answers. > >>> Solved problems are mostly not marked as such, so you have to do a > >>> lot of reading and searching which ends up very often with no > >>> results. > >>> > >>> Then there is this > >>> wiki(http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/How_do_I_do_that_in_QGIS > >>> [1]), which is in a concurrence to the "Share Tips, Tricks and > >>> Ideas" and it seems that there is not a lot going on too. > >>> (besides, writing an article and writing an article in a wiki where > >>> you need just another account are two different things and which > >>> rejects a lot of people) > >>> > >>> What i propose is a platform with a single login, which combines all > >>> those functions of the forum, mailing lists and wikis. > >>> Posts of any kind should be able to be tagged with an activly > >>> developed hierachical taxonomy for easier retrieval and > >>> interconnection of different types of content. > >>> > >>> Especially the enormous modularity of QGIS with all its plugins > >>> needs a better and more structured way of getting informations of > >>> what this and that modules does, what which setting means, what bugs > >>> people found, how they found workarounds etc. All this could be > >>> accessible just by one taxonomy term with the name of the modul for > >>> example, spiced up with sorting for popularity, ratings or whatever. > >>> > >>> > >>> There should also be a group system for different audiences, > >>> projects, interests, languages (not everyone is a fluent english > >>> reader or writer) so people are able to pick the stuff that suits > >>> them and subscribe to certain groups, taxonomy terms, projects, > >>> events, working fields etc. and get notified in a structured way > >>> when something of their interest had occured. > >>> > >>> The easier the access to already produced knowledge, the more likely > >>> it will be that some people take the effort and collect the bits for > >>> own articles, tutorials, working examples etc. > >>> > >>> I never managed to build sth that i propose myself so far, but i > >>> invest quite a time investigating "better" ways to connect > >>> communities and generate and preserve knowledge. > >>> By doing so, i stumbled upon drupal some years ago, where i see a > >>> lot of tools (nearly too many) to build sth that would provide all > >>> means to develope a communication and knowledge management strategy. > >>> > >>> There maybe other platforms, but drupal is the only one i know > >>> enough about to be sure that it could solve a lot of issues with a > >>> modest investment in time and infrastructure. > >>> > >>> Thanks for your time > >>> Bernd > >>> > >>> Am 27.03.2012, 20:34 Uhr, schrieb Gary Sherman : > >>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mar 27, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: > >>> > > >>>>> There are more modern and sustainable ways for exchanging > >>> knowledge and > >>>>> provide user interaction than this. Just my 2 cents, do not wanna > >>> > >>>>> insult anyone with this.) > >>>>> > >>> > > >>>> Such as? > >>>> > >>>> -gary > >>>> > >>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >>>> Gary Sherman > >>>> GeoApt LLC > >>>> http://geoapt.com [3] > >>>> Founder, Quantum GIS > >>> > Chair, QGIS PSC > >>>> Book: > >>>> http://geospatialdesktop.com [4] > >>>> "We work virtually everywhere" > >>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Bernd Vogelgesang * Siedlerstrasse 2 * 91083 Baiersdorf * > >>> +49-9133-825374 [5] > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Qgis-user mailing list > >>> [email protected] [6] > >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user [7] > >> > >> > >> > >> Links: > >> ------ > >> [1] http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/How_do_I_do_that_in_QGIS > >> [2] mailto:[email protected] > >> [3] http://geoapt.com > >> [4] http://geospatialdesktop.com > >> [5] http://webmail.carto.net/tel:%2B49-9133-825374 > >> [6] mailto:[email protected] > >> [7] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > >> [8] mailto:[email protected] > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qgis-user mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >
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