So I work with Forestry guys and we do some very similar things when georeferencing. You need a good point spacing - and typically I describe that as a point at each coner of the image you are going to georeference plus one for the middle or (sorry for using this example but they have really good docs) - http://webhelp.esri.com/arcgisdesktop/9.2/index.cfm?TopicName=Georeferencing_a_raster_dataset

If it were me I would do this:
1. go to USDA Datagateway - http://datagateway.nrcs.usda.gov/ - and download a NAIP image of your Area (sorted by county). It will be sid format (probably) - so if you are on windows you should be OK for opening up the image. 2. Use that to georeference the Google earth Screenshot. It will give you a lot more control points than just your GPS.

 * GPS can be notorious for not quite being right if you didn't way
   point average - my forestry guys GPS property corners and that makes
   me not happy every time they do it.
 * Both Google and Bing are good and the open layers plugin rocks - but
   - both image layers aren't captured (at least to me) with mapping in
   mind - i.e. they may be questionable.


OR

1. Download the GPX data from your unit using either QGIS or DNR GPS
2. Convert to shapefile.
3. Create your contours there using a new shapefile (digitize them in again).

I know I just glassed over a ton of technical by doing a 1 2 3 type scenario but I think (just my opinion) there's more hair pulling than you need to be experiencing (For the record I'm bald so I know all about hair pulling).

Yell if you need more help either off list or on list - I hope some of this at least pushes you in a good direction.

Randy



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On 02/05/2014 12:04 PM, Mike Keelan wrote:
Thanks James,

I got through the geo-referencing operation and it did generate a new modified layer based on my .jpg. However the new layer is badly distorted/stretched, (I used 4 coordinate Garmin GPS reference points), and it is not in the right location. I can only find it by zooming to that layer extent. I'm wondering if my coordinate data from my Garmin is consistent with what the geo-referencing program uses? My Garmin data is xx.xxxxxx and it uses negative numbers to represent East instead of West. Or, might there be an accuracy issue?

I know my Garmin way-point data is good because it overlays on my Ortho almost perfectly as a separate layer.

Mike K

On 2/3/2014 8:28 PM, James Wood wrote:
Mike,
Here is a good tutorial overview of the georeferencing tool in QGIS:
http://qgis.spatialthoughts.com/2012/02/tutorial-georeferencing-topo-sheets.html

If the image is not in coordinate space, it will not line up with your other data. so this operation will be necessary.

Also, just as a side, I would think that an export from Powerpoint would degrade image quality (depending on the original). I would look at and maybe try for future use The Gimp (which is an open source, free Photoshop-type application). It will give you more control on export of not only various output formats but also pixel and color depth, and the like. The official site is http://www.gimp.org/.

Best Regards,
James


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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 19:59:14 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] How do I register a Google Map?

OK, I installed the Open Layers plugin and it works very nice but it won't do what I need, so let me be more specific and see if there might be a remedy.

The contour lines that I want were actually obtained using a hand held Garman GPS. The Garman data was overlaid on the Google map, (with water depths), special integration, then that map was exported as a Jpeg, then imported to PowerPoint where a visual interpolation was done to make the final set of contour lines for the various lake water depths.

My desire is the _digitize_ these contour lines as a set of separate layers. ie 5' deep, 10' deep, etc. There are many good uses for these layers, but they must be accurate as to location and size. I don't think I necessarily need spacial info on the "map"/Jpeg if I can get the whole map in the right position, and size, so I can do the digitizing (which would then have the spacial info). Then I can discard the Jpeg.

Is it hopeless?

Mike K






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