Chris,

The towgs84-parameter is specifically used to do a 3D Helmert transformation 
from one system TO WGS84. The 3D Helmert is different from the 2D, so you can 
"cheat" by e.g. only using some of the 7 parameters in the 3D Helmert. It also 
sounds like your destination system is not WGS84.

The Swedish geodetic authority, LantmÀteriet, has worked around the problem of 
not having a 2D Helmert available in common GIS system by exploiting that a 
change of prime meridian in a given projection in principle rotates the 
coordinate system. This is a practical solution made many years ago because of 
the circumstances at the time and should not be repeated :-)

Kristian

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Fra: Franklin, Chris - Perth [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sendt: 30. november 2017 12:24
Til: Kristian Evers <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Emne: Re: [Qgis-user] Custom Projection in QGIS

Hi Kristian,

I was thinking maybe I needed to use the towgs84  in the proj.4 but maybe I was 
wrong, so what can I do in QGIS, will ask tomorrow to see if there is a 4 point 
projection parameters I can use.

Regards

Chris






On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:05 PM +0800, "Kristian Evers" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Chris,

From your description I have no idea of what you are trying to do. It does 
however look like the parameters you have is for a 2D Helmert transformation. 
That is not something you can do in QGIS today. All transformations in QGIS are 
carried out by PROJ.4. The good news is that in the coming version of PROJ.4 
the 2D Helmert is available (as well as a bunch of other geodetic 
transformations). Eventually this will be available to you in QGIS as well.

/Kristian


Fra: Qgis-user [mailto:[email protected]] PĂ„ vegne af Franklin, 
Chris - Perth
Sendt: 30. november 2017 03:47
Til: [email protected]
Emne: [Qgis-user] Custom Projection in QGIS

I have been given the parameters for a local grid - it's a version of UTM Zone 
29N but I'm not sure where I need to change the syntax

The parameters I have been given are:

rl_correct =       -24.273
yd1=                 22737.030
xd1=                 17332.250
yd2=                 25987.560
xd2=                 17893.870
ym1=                1193806.320
xm1=                820224.327
ym2=                1196784.417
ym2=                821648.929

Note the Z adjustment

This results in the following transformation

Scale=              1.00801358
Rotation=          15.4548
Shift x=            1171069.29
Shift y=            802891.987


Can someone point me in the right direction as to where these are entered?

+proj=utm +zone=29 +datum=WGS84 +units=m +no_defs

Thanks

Chris

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