On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 16:17:38 -0400, DancesWithCars via QGIS-User <[email protected]> wrote:
> I won't be making the transition. > Bye > I am not very active in this list, but learn a lot with it. A migration to a web based platform that usally screw the messages contents... Nah. I will miss the list. > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024, 14:06 chris hermansen via QGIS-User < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Régis and everyone else, > > > > My apologies; I try not to top post but my response is more an > > overall reaction to your announcement rather than a point by point > > response. > > > > I was a member (??) over at opensource.com's Discourse instance > > until RedHat decided to shut down support for opensource.com, so I > > have some experience with that Discourse configuration, also plenty > > of experience with mailing lists. Also familiarity with the Ubuntu > > Forums, Stack Exchange etc. > > > > In my experience, Discourse "out of the box" doesn't offer any net > > benefit to its users. > > > > It's quite possible that people interested in, and willing to > > invest time and effort into customizing their usage profile would > > benefit more from Discourse than from a mailing list. I have no > > experience with that. > > > > You may be correct when you say that we will attract more new users > > by offering them Discourse than by maintaining a mailing list. I > > guess the question that begs to be asked is, will those new users > > thereby turn into contributors, or will the biggest Discourse > > channel be "how do I install QGIS on my new Mac"? > > > > I suppose, perhaps wrongly, that most of us on this (and other) > > mailing lists are here because the list provides a sense of > > community, an opportunity to pay back by offering a bit of help, an > > opportunity to stumble on something new and useful from time to > > time... what else? I'm pretty sure none of us participate in this > > list to learn how to participate effectively in lists. Moreover, > > we don't really have the tools to "only pay attention to topics X, > > Y and Z". So all of us get to see the beginner questions, and the > > responses, and sometimes we find ourselves in the situation of > > starting fresh with something that, because of this broad > > familiarity, is not a total blank. > > > > In contrast, in my experience, moving to Discourse, or any other > > similar forum-type structure, allows or even encourages us to stick > > to certain topics that we think may be of interest and avoid all > > others. > > > > I would argue that we thereby cheapen and diminish our contribution > > back to the forum, simply because we miss real opportunities to > > help while we avoid reading certain topics; and by doing so, we > > reduce the sense of community we get by belonging to the list. I > > would further argue that we run the risk of not learning many new > > things because by streaming topics into tens or hundreds of > > specialist channels, we inevitably miss things that might benefit > > us. > > > > Finally, we have the "opportunity" to spend more of our limited time > > learning about configuring our participation in this mechanism, > > rather than just participating. Your example of learning how to > > treat Discourse like a mailing list by following the Mozilla > > tutorial addresses this situation precisely - instead of helping a > > person with their configuration issues, or learning more about how > > to structure the queries used in QGIS, we are tweaking the > > Discourse knobs and levers to get the "optimum" experience. > > > > I guess you can tell that I'm negative on this concept. I don't > > feel that the mailing list is a be-all and end-all. But I am > > pretty sure, again based on my experience, that the lovely > > community we have here on [email protected] will not be the > > same collection of good things once migrated to Discourse. I do > > hope that I am wrong! > > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 7:04 AM Régis Haubourg via QGIS-User < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> [Message sent to all QGIS's lists. Sorry for crossposting - > >> **please reply only in PSC list** ] > >> [stuff deleted] > >> > >> > >> Any thought from you is more than welcome, from ranting against > >> modernity to thanking SAC for their hard work. > >> > > And thank you, SAC, for your hard work! > > > > -- > > Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com > > > > C'est ma façon de parler. > > _______________________________________________ > > QGIS-User mailing list > > [email protected] > > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > Roxo -- ---------------- Non luctari, ludare -------------------+ WYSIWYG Fernando M. Roxo da Motta <[email protected]> | Editor? Except where explicitly stated I speak on my own behalf.| VI !! 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