You can download the appengine java SDK to try it out. The SDK allows you to
"run" your app and test it out before uploading it to Google App Engine. I
recommend downloading the Eclipse plugin, which makes it quite easy to
develop -> run -> test.

http://code.google.com/eclipse/


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On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Georg Ragaller <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Although I don't know exactly what happens in qi4j internals, my rough
> > understanding says, that the restrictions should not be a no go,
> > since reflection is fully supported on own classes. So if the core does
> not
> > use reflection on other classes, it should work.
> > Perhaps the sticking point is really the JRE class whitelist. All the
> other
> > restriction are more related to architectural or configuration issues, I
> > think.
>
> Well, I can see 4 potential issues;
>  1. We are using some forbidden class/method.
>
>  2. They don't allow setAccessible() on Fields et al.
>
>  3. We generate sub-classes on the fly with ASM. They may no allow that.
>
>  4. Our use of generics is fairly extensive, and if their JVM is not
> Sun's, then there might be corner-cases which doesn't behave the same,
> i.e. Qi4j ends up clueless..
>
> So, trying would be really important, but can't get an account at the
> moment. I'm asking around with friends at Google and see if they can
> dig up someone to ask for one.
>
> > Altogether, I'm personnally *not* really interested in using AppEngine
> (at
> > least at this time), so the main reason I pointed to it was, that it
> could
> > prove again (or not) qi4j's flexibility regarding the pluggable ES
> mechanism
> > and it could be attractive for others.
> > So it's really a 'nice to have' from my point of view.
>
> Ok, personally I see it much more strategically important.
>
> I have even started on a plugin for IDEA, where I can do,
>
> edit --> testLocally -->  deploy
>
> for Qi4j applications. If you develop a Qi4j app for web, you should
> be a single click from deployment. And with zero cost, that sounds
> like a really neat deal.
>
>
> Cheers
> --
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>
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