On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Stanislav Muhametsin
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Why would nr. 2 result in a lot of empty fields (I assume you meant rows
> here?)?

No. Not rows.
The choice is that a row = a composite. And coumn is the
full-qualified property/association name (i.e. Mixin + method name).

> Indexing-SQL is done exactly like that, and it never stores empty
> rows to the Property/Association tables.

Ahh... A 4th choice that I didn't realized. A table with Identity,
Property and Value columns. I think it is another "obfuscation" from
the "SQL community's" point of view; There is no schema at all, as we
have in 1.

> IMO the whole noSQL fuss is just hype. SQL is a professional tool, and there
> is nothing wrong with its scalability or other options. Most problems
> related with SQL stem from not understanding how to use it properly. Not to
> mention that pretty much all ORM-frameworks are total crap (including
> Hibernate & Co, or Microsoft's "solutions" in C# world). Yes - every single
> ORM framework I tried, was pretty much unusable (for the project I'm working
> for).

As for the "hype", I would somewhat agree, but SQL is both capable but
likewise complex and hard to work with in a primarily object-oriented,
graph-related software world. Does NoSQL solves all our problems? No,
not at all, but it highlights the absurdity that SQL is THE answer to
all storage needs. It isn't...

As for ORM; In general, you are right. Hibernate sucks. More so than
JPA. JPA sucks more than JDO. It makes the initial steps relatively
easy, only to rear the ugly heads down the line. Or IOW, the ORM
abstraction LEAKS into the object model quite severely.

> Summa summarum (aka TL;DR): if you have a working SQL-based system, don't
> bother to change to noSQL solution.

Yes, I agree with that... unless you are adding features that are
extremely hard to solve when built on RDBMS.


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