Sorry, but most of that is meaningless to me:
GPRS, UTMS, HSDPA ???

Terminology alone is a nightmare for someone who's never used this 
service before! I was afraid of this :-(

Still, we'll work on it when it arrives to see what we can get out of 
it - a lot of things on mobile phones are easier to work out than it 
is to understand the manuals, I find. My son managed to get the file 
sharing etc working on his phone with his friends at school without a 
manual (only had the phone a few days and he'd lost the manual!).

I guess he's is getting to the age now where he tackles anything on a 
computer - he's just scripted, filmed and edited a short film as part 
of his school course and not be outdone I've just had to master 
Windows Movie Maker in readiness for when he starts throwing his 
digital video camera recordings at me after christmas! His mum bought 
him a digital video camera (Aiptek - German made, Jochen will be glad 
to hear) for about £60 for christmas and I've done my bit by getting 
him a few SD memory cards (1GB each, how technology has marched on!), 
card reader and bluetooth dongle and a few other things for less than 
the price of the camera. The camera itself can record movies, photos, 
play MP3 and other audio bits and bobs, yet it's smaller than my 
digital stills camera, the only thing I don't like is the tinty 
controls.

In my youth, we were lucky if we got a Spirograph or similar for 
Christmas, now kids lives revolve around things digital, things 
playstation, various MPEG formats and the like. The one thing he 
hasn't mastered yet is programming, though he's sitting up and taking 
note at how easy it is for me to write things in S*BASIC and he's 
wanting to get into writing games. Oh dear, have I created a monster 
?!?!

"Nostalgia ain't what it used to be" ;-)
-- 
Dilwyn Jones

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "SMSQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Bluetooth


> Hi Dilwyn,
>
> well, I am using data with my laptop via Bluetooth and my mobile 
> phone
> for many years now.
>
> First of all, you have to check if your provider has a reasonably 
> priced
> flat or pseudo-flat-rate. In Germany, you currently pay 25 EUR for
> a GPRS/UMTS flat. Which is not much, and gives you flexibility.
>
> If you have to pay by the minute or per megabyte, it can become 
> expensive.
>
> Next, you should check if you have UMTS (G3) at home, because if you
> only have GPRS, better forget about it. THEORETICALLY, GPRS and 
> analogue
> landline have the same speed, but they don't. And the ping times are
> much worse. For example, you can forget about using Ebay via GPRS,
> it loads too many small things - websites never finish loading.
>
> If you have DSL at home, you need at least UMTS or HSDPA to 
> "replace" it
> without getting the impression that you downgraded yourself 
> considerably.
>
> Once you sorted this out and you have a data tariff, then the next 
> step
> is to create a dialup for the phone.
>
> With Nokia phones and, for example, the Widcomm Bluetooth software, 
> it
> is quite easy. Search for the services of your phone in the 
> Bluetooth
> software. There is a DUN (dial up network) service in the services 
> of
> the phone. Double-click it. All you need to specify now is the 
> "Phone
> number", which is *99# for GPRS/UMTS connections in all the networks 
> I
> know of.
>
> Then you have a GPRS or UMTS connection - that's it, you are ready 
> to surf.
>
> The "Phone number" is more complex on some other phones, like
> SonyEricsson, but the manual should tell you.
>
> It is not difficult, and it is very handy to have. But, no 
> replacement
> for DSL if you don't have 3.5G or at least 3G.
>
> Cheers   Jochen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dilwyn Jones wrote:
>> My son recently got a mobile phone with bluetooth, and he says he's
>> been sharing music etc with his mates at school using this between
>> phones. He's asked me for a bluetooth dongle for his PC which only
>> costs a couple of pounds. He reckons he should be able to use it to
>> connect his PC to his mobile phone to access the web, since his 
>> mother
>> doesn't have a landline.
>>
>> This gives me an interesting option - I make very little use of my
>> landline for voice calls - my main use of it is to maintain my QL
>> website, general web access and email. In other words, the bulk of 
>> the
>> cost is landline rental.
>>
>> How feasible is to set up a web connection via such a setup - cheap
>> bluetooth dongle on the PC with a bluetooth equipped phone, and how
>> does one go about it? It would also allow me to work on my website 
>> etc
>> while away from home.
>>
>
> -- 
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>    Tel. +49-(0)203-502011      Fax +49-(0)203-502012
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