Dilwyn Jones escribió:
>> Is there already a repository of scanned documents with QL?
> There is the documents section on my website, where I have some
> manuals for old disk interfaces, QL manual and so on. But no books.
> www.dilwyn.uk6.net/docs/index.html
> and there is a list of QL books (none scanned) at
> www.dilwyn.uk6.net/gen/books/books.html


Your page is one of the most famous and visited here. I know very well
how useful are these sections. I'm always surprised how much
information  (in text editable format) you've been able to gather.


>> What do you think? What would have problems? Besides the poor quality of
>> some scans and the tedious work involved in doing so.
> Plus of course copyright issues. It is possible that companies might
> not object so long after most QL books went out of print, but remember
> that copyright persists for many years.


Of course. We have contacted the spanish companies that we have been
able to get his license and be available on our website those manuals
and books and programs too. In some cases, companies no longer exist or
have changed their names, and we have to do a real investigative work.

We never have given a negative. There are several reasons for this.
Mainly that no longer profit from their stock issues because they do not
have stocks and they will not reissue. These companies use rights to
exploit from a material translated and that only belongs to our language
translation. But in most cases, companies are not legally imply and do
not give their permission directly, but also not object.

I think in the international market could be a similar circumstance. For
us it would be more complicated contact with English companies on their
books and manuals of programs, and we'd like to know if someone has
already tried.

I think particularly that the publishing companies are not going to
object. The companies producing software or who have obtained the rights
of its programs if it might make objections. But in this case would find
that many companies no longer exist or have changed their names, so
their rights in that software has been extinguished.

Today, I know who the commercial software is virtually confined to the
resale. They might be partially affected. but I think that the manuals
are obtained along with the original software, and they usually do not
get benefits from the direct sale of manuals so that this initiative
would also not a problem for them.

The most affected would be the resellers of books. Also here is an
alternative, as there are many people who still prefers to have edited
the original material because they are collectors.

But what will happen when there are no more books for sale? The books
and manuals are not copied as the software.


>
> It is very tedious work, even using a good modern scanner and modern
> OCR software.
>


With a modern scanner is easy to scan books with separate pages, but not
bound books. The OCR is still an added complication. I prefer books
without OCR. Using only black and white (1 bit) a book of some 188 pages
can hold only about 2 MiB.

An example: the spanish translation of the A. A. Berk "QL SUPERBASIC" 
marketed by the Spanish company Indescomp, weighs 2.318 KiB.

you can see it in our web, in "Utilidades" > "Manuales"

direct link: http://sinclairql.es/manual.htm

link to the book in PDF: http://sinclairql.es/man/lengs/qlsuperbasic.pdf

link to a list of the spanish books: http://sinclairql.es/editado.htm


> Quanta have started on the task of scanning the old newsletters (the
> old ones, where the original documents are no longer available on
> disk) to preserve them as searchable PDF documents. I think it might
> be a very long, very slow, very tedious job just for 40-page
> newsletters, never mind whole books!


We know this well.  we did with the newsletters of the club QLAVE (a
Spanish club like QUANTA) Fortunately, Salvador Merino, the operator of
the material, did a splendid job.


> But good luck if you decide to do this job, Javier.


If we see no more objections, we will scan some books to PDF format, the
most necessary and those that never were published in Spanish.

Tank you Dilwyn


Javier Guerra
http://sinclairql.es
Sinclair QL spanish resources


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