When you say "massively" are we talking 1.2v or 3v or what? Knowing where
the cut-off is does allow you to do one version for (S)GC and one for
everything else, and in the (S)GC case maybe use a pull down resistor with
an old buffer IC?

I have had some temperamental behavior from my loaner SCG, but it has a
memory issue anyway.

Dave


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Peter <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> after spending a weekend looking why my SuperGoldCard system does not work
> reliably with QL-SD, here is a quick result:
>
> Sometimes the ROMOE signal massively exceeds the maximum TTL low voltage
> of 0.8V while in logic low state. This happens for about tens of
> nanoseconds.
>
> The 30 year old circuitry of the QL was too slow to see this, so the fault
> did not have immediate effects. But the QL-SD had to use a contemporary
> PLD, with over 300 MHz maximum operating frequency, which considers it a
> valid ROMOE signal and can malfunction. (Other signals than ROMOE may also
> be affected.)
>
> I have also measured with a GoldCard, where a similar effect can be seen,
> but it exceeeds the maximum TTL low voltage by a smaller amount.
>
> Conclusion One: There will be no easy way to make QL-SD work reliably with
> the SuperGoldCard. The GoldCard appears to work with QL-SD, but is not
> save in theory.
>
> Conclusion Two: Hardware designs for a (Super)GoldCard QL better use
> slower/older circuitry. The other option: Don't expect valid signals, but
> implement filters or other means, so the faulty signals do not cause
> malfunction.
>
> Time allowing, I'll post oscilloscope pictures at the QL forum. It is
> possible that other setups, particularly with Aurora and/or better power
> supply, give better results.
>
> Peter
>
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