Please don flame proof clothing before reading this !!

<BEGIN RANT MODE>
Bye bye then Peter.

I think your attitude sucks (to be quite brutally honest) but you have made
your choice to go, then so be it.

I think your hardware posts are pretty tedious - but I'm not into hardware,
but I still get them and all the replies, 99% of which are of no interest to
me. I'm still here because I can contribute something in other respects.

Maybe you think that everything on the list has to be
QL/QDOS/SMQ/Q40/Q60/QPC (!) related but for the benefit of those of us on
the list who do not have access to the Internet through a QL type device
and/or software, then how exactly off topic is advice on avoiding the
plagues and pitfalls of *having* to use such horrible things as PCs ?

I for one am glad to see discussions on virusses - especially if it means
that other people on this list using inferior hardware (ie PCs) can avoid
sending them to me, and the rest of us - the majority I suspect - who access
this list from a PC. The PC is a fact of life and no matter how much we like
the QL, it is not, and never has been, mainstream - much as I would like to
have seen it. It was ahead of its time, and shafted too.

I for one, found the arguments re QPC or Q40/Q60 and which one was a real QL
system pretty tedious, small minded and un-necessary. It still took up a lot
of bandwidth on this list, in QL Toady etc - but I didn't cancel my
subscription to QL Today.

Because of the recent discussions on 'flo flo', I was able to see that I had
a suspicious email this morning, and true to form, there was a virus
attached, so someone on the list is still infected and sending it out. Maybe
you are using Q40/Q60 and can avoid these things, but most of us have to
take extreme care - especially those of us who read this list at work. (The
virus was intercepted and deleted by our software, but others on the list
might not be so lucky.) Maybe you even want those of us not using your
hardware to catch the virusses on the go just now - so you can tell us all
how wonderful Q40/Q60 is.

Take your ball and go home then.
<END RANT MODE>

Now, having said all that, regardless of whether you re-join or not, and
I'll be glad to see you return, I sincerely wish you every success with
sales and development of Q40/Q60. One day, I hope to be able to have one -
wife permitting of course. Good Luck.

Sorry about that rant above everyone, but this tedious attitude from some
people that 'only their way is right' gets on my t*ts !


Regards,
Norman.

(Having a somewhat bad day already - sorry!)

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Norman Dunbar
Database/Unix administrator
Lynx Financial Systems Ltd.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel: 0113 289 6265
Fax: 0113 289 3146
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Graf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ql-users] ms-users-and-smalltalk-list


Hi folks,

I find it absolutely OK to have some off-topic mails on this list now and
then. But in the last weeks there has been a neverending *huge* flood of
absolutely non QL-related traffic.

PC's, Microsoft, the related software and the related viruses and the
related problems will never end, and there are enough forums where they can
be discussed. There is no reason why these forums are not used, and the
ql-users list is constantly abused instead. Why don't you open a
ms-users-and-smalltalk-list?

Please see that I'm not talking about just a few mails now and then -
that's fine by me! I'm talking about floods of mails.

The consequence is, that I will now leave the list, because I don't have
the time to handle this anymore. I'll unsubscribe after this mail. 

All the best

Peter

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