At 11:49 �� 10/4/2002, you wrote:

>At 01:11 AM 4/11/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>>On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote:
>>
>> > I suggested to Dave to start off with MicroEmacs as since he's been using
>> > Linux he would be a known environment.... (QD is FAR EASIER TO WORK WITH
>> > than MicroEmacs :-)
>>
>>If it's anything like emacs, I'll pass... I'm a pico person :o)
>
>MicroEmacs is really nothing like Emacs.  The version done by Thierry has 
>menus so that the command keystrokes really don't need to be 
>memorized.  The problem with MicroEmacs is that it can be a bit slow on a 
>Gold Card QL (which is what I am currently using).  A simpler editor is 
>QED, which is a clone of Metacomco's ED.  QED is fast, small, and fairly 
>easy to use.  It even allows for simple macros.  MicroEmacs has a full 
>macro language (with conditional statements and loops), plus it can 
>execute other programs.

True although I always found the menus in MicroEmacs to be more confusing 
than helpful! As for it's Macro language it's indeed one of its best 
features :-)


>As for programming, if you are using SuperBasic, I might suggest looking 
>into Structured SuperBasic.  It's a S*Basic preprocess and filter.  It 
>allows SB code to look like C or Pascal with spaces and no line 
>numbers.  It also allows preprocess command like "conditional 
>compilation", just the C preprocessor does.  It's free and <plug> I wrote 
>it.  You can use MicroEmacs and use a macro that will save the file and 
>execute Structured SuperBasic, and then call Qliberator (working on a 
>Turbo compatible version).  So, you can do all of the compiling process 
>without leaving MicroEmacs.

SSB by Tim is really great... Fired up by some old QL magazines etc. Tim 
sent me, I plan on working on it to make it Turbo compatible myself when I 
finish Q-Word and advance my GUI project a little :-) Probably during my 
vacation :-) (Yep with a notebook by the beach :-)) Now that's hard core 
QLing folks :-)

>BTW, On my web page (www.geocities.com/svenqhj/) is my "SuperBasic Source 
>Book" that covers some details about using Qlib, plus a bunch about 
>freeware tools for SB programming.  It's a few years old, you might find 
>it usefull.  I cover a number of freeware toolkits available (and possibly 
>some commercial, but I can't remember).  SSB is also on my web page.

Definitely a must-read :-) Tim is extremely talented in making even the 
most complex subjects easy to understand... Must be his army (or was that 
airforce?) training :-) (One can NEVER imagine what he'll see in the Army 
hehehehehe - Been there done that :-)
Also Rich Mellor's SuperBasic/QDOS Manual is EXTREMELY well done... Only 
seen portions of it... I still haven't gotten around to contact Al Boehm 
and get a copy :-((((

Phoebus

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