----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Firshman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] e-mail plain protocols [was Parcelfarce]
>
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 at 13:32:12, P Witte wrote:
> (ref: <000601c266fb$dcc49390$0100a8c0@gamma>)
>
> >
> >Tony Firshman writes:
> >
> >While were having this little chat let me point out to Tony that I
often
> >find your replies very hard to find. See the example below.
> >
> ><lines and lines of "quoted" text>
> >
> >>Note: In I/E 6: There does not *seem* to be the offer of the -
> >>
> >>'>' etc as a prefix but a standardisation on ':'
> >Interesting - I have _never_ seen ':' until now. <--- Tony's
reply
> I agree you sent this to me as quoted text, but it is up to _your_
> mailer to add the quoted text mark, not me.
> I fail to see what I can do.
> I have to send items starting at column one, and looking at the sent
> item in my filed mail (I do have the option to view the raw text, it
> looks fine.
> .... ie exactly what I am seeing on screen.
> All I get in TP is quoted text in red.
> >>
> >>See example below
> >
> ><more lines and lines of quoted text>
> >
> >Perhaps, because your email program does "intelligent" things to
the text to
> >emphasise the thread logic in some way, you may not realise the
problem even
> >now. Try viewing it in a text-only application to see what I mean;
your
> >reply gets completely lost in the ambient verbiage!
> ... but this is the text received from you, and looks exactly the
same
> as I see in Turnpike.
> >This has been the case
> >as long as Ive been on this list, so in the early days, when I
believed all
> >email clients were the same, I made sure to leave a blank line
above and
> >below my own inserted responses (I wonder how that comes across on
some
> >people's screens!) If Im the only person with this "problem" I
apologise for
> >taking up your time - otherwise, perhaps you might consider
adapting your
> >style for the benefit of your reading public?
>
> You are using Outlook Express - the same mailer as Bill's.
>
> I know I usually get msgs from Outlook with the whole original
message
> appended to the bottom.
> How did you get threaded - did you cut and paste?
> Maybe that is defeating Outlook.
>
>
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Hi Tony
The '>' problem seems to be with LOOKOUT Explode!, I have found an
email that looses all the reply quotes when it is replied to. The
other 4 million emails quote properly with '>' as above. So LOOKOUT
Explode! strips its own quotes off in certain circumstances. Yes, I've
had a look but cannot see the difference between emails & config (I've
spent 5 mins on it, that's enough), the one difference I can tell you
is that the problem surrounds replying to formatted text. LOOKOUT
Explode! must put the '>' on to a reply then strip out the garbage and
take its own quotes with it when converting to plain text. I can
reproduce this condition. To bring this back on topic as most of you
should know various new emailing programs are being tested for our
group, first is to get the programs working with plain text, this list
is a good test for the new programs, lets all use plain text - as we
should in public - and this helps during testing. The 'plain text
plea' has been mentioned before.
On LOOK Exp don't forget to look in the address book - properties -
name - send as plain text (tick) I know it's obvious but some do slip
through.
Dennis - D&D Systems
